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Mugin16 · 46-50, M
Do you mean the first Cold War or the current one?
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wildbill83 · 36-40, M
@LookingForTheSummer gotta look at things from a logistical standpoint, not from the end result...
yes, a lot of products (usually cheap, garbage, household products) come from China
where do the designs/patents for those products come from?... the west
where do the raw materials for those products come from?... the west
where does the marking for those products come from?... the west
where does the demand (and therefore profit) for those products come from?... the west
Automation can replace labor, it can't replace the rest...
people are getting fed up with China, their poor products/lack of quality control, their unscrupulous trade deals, their ignorance of patents/intellectual rights, their counterfeit products, their ignorance of health & safety standards, etc.
their handling of covid is only proof of the underlying problem...
not very good business on their part when they alienate their suppliers and kill their customers...
yes, a lot of products (usually cheap, garbage, household products) come from China
where do the designs/patents for those products come from?... the west
where do the raw materials for those products come from?... the west
where does the marking for those products come from?... the west
where does the demand (and therefore profit) for those products come from?... the west
Automation can replace labor, it can't replace the rest...
people are getting fed up with China, their poor products/lack of quality control, their unscrupulous trade deals, their ignorance of patents/intellectual rights, their counterfeit products, their ignorance of health & safety standards, etc.
their handling of covid is only proof of the underlying problem...
not very good business on their part when they alienate their suppliers and kill their customers...
CynicGirl · 26-30, F
@wildbill83 you do know that most valuable resources are in africa and asia... especially north korea has a ridiculous amount of rare erath materials and if they werent a retarded autocratie they could be rich like norway.
you are rigth on the branding and marketing for the products.. sotheast asia (not even countin india here) has 4 times the market of the americas and europe... you underestimate how many people live there and how big that buying power is growing exponentially while in the west people get poorer or stagnate.
china has a bigger pool of allies then the usa now, they are giving countries deals they cant refuse... like leasing a port for a 100 years while paying for all the countries debts.
the only thign america has going for it is still an advantage in ideas and innovation, while china copies it... but america has to many people clinging to old business like steel plants and oil producing while they are highly suspectibel to the silicon valley. china embraces these new technologies.. not just the products but the technologies it self.
you are rigth on the branding and marketing for the products.. sotheast asia (not even countin india here) has 4 times the market of the americas and europe... you underestimate how many people live there and how big that buying power is growing exponentially while in the west people get poorer or stagnate.
china has a bigger pool of allies then the usa now, they are giving countries deals they cant refuse... like leasing a port for a 100 years while paying for all the countries debts.
the only thign america has going for it is still an advantage in ideas and innovation, while china copies it... but america has to many people clinging to old business like steel plants and oil producing while they are highly suspectibel to the silicon valley. china embraces these new technologies.. not just the products but the technologies it self.
LookingForTheSummer · 31-35, M
@wildbill83 I think CynicGirl gave a good answer. The world is not just about the west.
Also, don't get me wrong. I don't support China or anything like that, but we have to see the facts here. China is way more important for the world than you think.
Just look at what they have done to the world with covid. They're not taking any responsibility. And no country can make China do it. Unfortunately, that is the truth.
Also, don't get me wrong. I don't support China or anything like that, but we have to see the facts here. China is way more important for the world than you think.
Just look at what they have done to the world with covid. They're not taking any responsibility. And no country can make China do it. Unfortunately, that is the truth.
Abstraction · 61-69, M
In Australia we didn't have a big sense of impending nuclear disaster as in other places (in my experience).
* But we were brought up to believe in the 'domino theory' - that one by one countries would fall to communism unless we stopped them. So this justified the Vietnam war (and all kinds of propping up of vicious right wing dictators and unjust overthrow of democratic regimes I later found out). The government, the media, all seemed to tell the same story and most of us believed it.
* We believed that people in communist countries were being 'brainwashed' by their governments. The idea that our government and media were not telling the full story didn't seem likely. Ironically that's why we missed much of what was going on. Behind the iron curtain, you KNEW they were twisting truth. We didn't.
* But we were brought up to believe in the 'domino theory' - that one by one countries would fall to communism unless we stopped them. So this justified the Vietnam war (and all kinds of propping up of vicious right wing dictators and unjust overthrow of democratic regimes I later found out). The government, the media, all seemed to tell the same story and most of us believed it.
* We believed that people in communist countries were being 'brainwashed' by their governments. The idea that our government and media were not telling the full story didn't seem likely. Ironically that's why we missed much of what was going on. Behind the iron curtain, you KNEW they were twisting truth. We didn't.
LookingForTheSummer · 31-35, M
@Abstraction Interesting comment. What most people don't know is that people on both sides get brainwashed. Politicians need to justify their actions somehow.
Abstraction · 61-69, M
@LookingForTheSummer True - but when propaganda is clumsy, as it was behind the iron curtain, people saw through it. Although they told me they wouldn't even talk to their children about it in case they let something slip. People would disappear for less. One colleague from Romania knew a man who saw a hare running away and said, 'He's off to the Party Council.'
Secret Police took him away and he was imprisoned until communism fell.
Secret Police took him away and he was imprisoned until communism fell.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
There was a very real sense that nuclear war was really close.
Even as I was growing up in the 70’s !
Both Russia and the USA stockpiling weapons and invading countries.
At school we sat and watched an animated movie called ‘Protect and survive’ I think.
All about what you should do if you suddenly heard air raid warning sirens.
The Actor Patrick Allen even recorded a supposed list of instructions that were to be broadcast in the event war broke out.
They were to be broadcast in place of all other programming.
Do a YouTube search for [quote]Mine is the last voice you will ever hear [/quote]
Even as I was growing up in the 70’s !
Both Russia and the USA stockpiling weapons and invading countries.
At school we sat and watched an animated movie called ‘Protect and survive’ I think.
All about what you should do if you suddenly heard air raid warning sirens.
The Actor Patrick Allen even recorded a supposed list of instructions that were to be broadcast in the event war broke out.
They were to be broadcast in place of all other programming.
Do a YouTube search for [quote]Mine is the last voice you will ever hear [/quote]
LookingForTheSummer · 31-35, M
@Picklebobble2 Thinking this could happen any day might have made you very scared back then.
Just imagine how people's lives in countries like Syria are these days.
Just imagine how people's lives in countries like Syria are these days.
Picklebobble2 · 56-60, M
@LookingForTheSummer Not entirely sure but we may even have practiced certain things in Junior school.
Hiding under desks etc.
Hiding under desks etc.
LookingForTheSummer · 31-35, M
@Picklebobble2 Yes, it probably was a thing back then. Just like how they teach school children what to do when an earthquake happens.
Elevatorpitches · F
LeopoldBloom · M
@Elevatorpitches There was no coverup of JFK’s murder. The evidence shows that Oswald killed him, and acted alone. All of the other theories fall apart when examined.
Elevatorpitches · F
@LeopoldBloom Oh Hazel, your motes are so dusty!!😖
Oswald liked JFK and never fired a gun that day, at the window or anywhere else. I know you read.
Oswald liked JFK and never fired a gun that day, at the window or anywhere else. I know you read.
LeopoldBloom · M
@Elevatorpitches There are 53 separate pieces of evidence linking Oswald to the assassination. It’s ludicrous to claim that all of that was fabricated.
So what’s your theory? The CIA did it? The FBI? The mafia? The KGB? Or all of these antagonistic groups somehow working together and pinning it on poor Oswald?
So what’s your theory? The CIA did it? The FBI? The mafia? The KGB? Or all of these antagonistic groups somehow working together and pinning it on poor Oswald?
LookingForTheSummer · 31-35, M
@hartfire And what does it mean to you? How do you feel about it?
wildbill83 · 36-40, M
Alison · 18-21, F
I dunno, I don't get out much.