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Shout out to all the transwomen, who gave up male privilege to become oppressed.

Far fewer female to male transitions, wonder why that is?
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Doomflower · 36-40, M
I think it may be easier for women to pass as men than the other way around so we don't notice as much. I could just be an idiot.

I've known more trans men than women in my personal life. Most of the trans women I have known in my career were suffering from a mental illness (usually PTSD) because of the abuse they suffer in society.
Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@Doomflower men can't be victims of abuse, and even if they can it's at the hands of other men.
Doomflower · 36-40, M
@Unequal2Trash you're being facetious?
Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@Doomflower I'm being a realistic characterization of modern-day radical feminist, and the things they say do and imply
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Doomflower · 36-40, M
@Unequal2Trash perhaps I just don't listen to the kind of feminist you're talking about and am unaware of the truly nutbar faction. I don't frequent Tumblr or Instagram so maybe that's why.

I think people of all genders can be and are victims of abuse and it's pretty horrible the lack of support men have when seeking help for domestic abuse (for example).

I see all genders playing into stereotypes of gender norms and perpetuating negative/counter productive trends. To fix inequalities we must be willing to be honest with ourselves and others and realize there are no sides to take.

Do you think promoting hostility towards radical feminism helps or hinders dialogue about the very real and important issues feminism seeks to address? Do you have suggestions as to how to improve that dialogue?
Doomflower · 36-40, M
@SteelHands lol way to perpetuate gender stereotypes! #youarenothelping

I have been an adult for like 18 years now and feel comfortable telling you that men are just as petty as women.
Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@Doomflower I'm not promoting hostility I'm highlighting hypocrisy, real feminist want equality and have fought tooth and nail to get it, but some radical feminist, post horrible shit and I kinda have to make a joke out of it.
Doomflower · 36-40, M
@Unequal2Trash whatever you want to call it posts like this one appear to be designed to upset some people and make other people feel like they are right to oppose feminism because some feminists are hypocrites on some platforms. If that's not promoting hostility I don't know what is.

And calling it a joke doesn't negate the meat of the issue. Humor is philosophical and used to promote important ideas. I get the joke but it comes from a place of misunderstanding and hostility so you'll have to forgive me for not laughing.
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Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@Doomflower [quote]And calling it a joke doesn't negate the meat of the issue. Humor is philosophical and used to promote important ideas. I get the joke but it comes from a place of misunderstanding and hostility so you'll have to forgive me for not laughing
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How I feel about the kill all men joke.
Doomflower · 36-40, M
@SteelHands what do you mean by functionally different?

Please point out where I used an ad hominem.
Doomflower · 36-40, M
@Unequal2Trash agree 100%!!! That shit isn't funny.
Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@SteelHands If you use terms like "Beta male" you're part of the problem, you see yourself as better than them. Tell me what separates a beta from an alpha?
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Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@Doomflower I don't want to hurt feminism I want to help it, it's, not my jokes about the kill the men jokes that hurts it's the kill all men jokes themselves that do that. We have to work together to level the playing field for all,, if feminist do not reject that message and detach from those who spread it it will become indistinguishable from actual feminism.
Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@Doomflower This is a good example, some men don't even treat other men as equals,
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Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@SteelHands Yeah, I do I think her rights and dignity deserve the same respect I think mine deserve, no better, no worse. You are all ego and no substance, making others appear weak does not make you appear strong. The world needs feminism, because of people who consider themselfs alphas, and think they are entitled to take what they want because they assume they should have power and control.

Feminism, gives victims a voice, I'm not anti feminism I'm anti hate, and discrimination.
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Unequal2Trash · 36-40, F
@SteelHands you claim to be an alpha as I claim, to be a radical feminist you won't even tell your age, unless your are in your 90s, your picture not up either no age no picture, you could be a 12 year old kid for all I know.
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