Why do immigrants never go back to their country if they're so proud of it?

@JesseInTX Did you know that a large portion of the Western United States used to be a part of Mexico? I’m guessing not.

Uhmmm yes I did. You see being born and raised in Texas we teach Texas History. Were you aware that that large portion has not been a part of Mexico since 1836 when General Sam Houston and around 500 Texians, as they were known at the time, defeated 3,00 Mexicans at the Battle of San Jacinto? Where General Antonio de Lopez de Santa Ana, in exchange for his life, signed away that land to the Texians? Are you also aware that Texas is the only state that was once it’s own country? I think you should slow your roll. There isn’t a Mexican citizen alive or their grandparents for that matter when Texas was part of Mexico @LithiumDrop

@JesseInTX So basically they took that land away from the Mexicans.

Kind of the same way the Colonial Army took the colonies away from the British. They rose up against taxation without representation. We fought, we won. Vastly outnumbered and still prevailed. Did you know the the Battle of San Jacinto was won in 18 minutes @bijouxbroussard?

Fuck, I guess I’m gonna stop celebrating St. Patrick’s Day now. Can’t risk offending some Texan by celebrating my Irish heritage. @JesseInTX

@JesseInTX Mexico is part of North America. It's more of boundary issue than immigration.

That’s pretty silly. There were then and to this day many Irish here. Including my great, great, great grandfather who fought at the Battle of San Jacinto. The diversity amongst the people here then was amazing. If you actually care to study it @luckranger71

So I’m guessing you’re for open borders as opposed to the sovereignty of nations? Why do the people of El Salvador or Honduras not seek asylum in Mexico, or Belize @JBird ?

I’m well aware of the history. I’m betting I’ve traveled to Texas far more than you’ve traveled to the Upper Midwest. There are small towns here that have far more Norwegian flags than American ones. In my town Irish flags outnumber American flags around St. Pats day.

There is zero problem with people of Mexican descent celebrating their beautiful country. You should try not to be so easily offended. @JesseInTX

@JesseInTX [quote]There isn’t a Mexican citizen alive or their grandparents for that matter when Texas was part of Mexico[/quote] Are there any [b]descendants[/b] of those Mexican nationals alive in Texas ?

And the British formed those colonies after taking the land from the Native peoples. I'm not sure why U.S. history is taught from the perspective that Europeans taking land from indigenous people was [b]admirable[/b], and something to celebrate.

The difference is those people came here legally. I’m not saying don’t appreciate your heritage, but if you want to be here come here the right way. Don’t break the law. And I have traveled this country quite extensively. I doubt very seriously you’ve traveled Texas as much as I’ve traveled the Midwest. Just admit you want open borders and then we can have a debate @luckranger71

You reveal your ignorance and bias in assuming all those who celebrate their Mexican ancestry are illegal. Also: reading comprehension may not be your strong suit: “Upper Midwest”. Use the google machine. This does not refer to Nebraska, Kansas, Missouri etc. @JesseInTX

Descendants? Yes. Just like there are descendants of slaves here. It doesn’t mean they or their grandparents or great grandparents were. @bijouxbroussard

@JesseInTX I recently found out that one of my great-grandfathers [b]was[/b] born into slavery, in 1854. It's [b]not[/b] as far away as people think.

You reveal your ignorance in making that statement. Of course not all that celebrate their Mexican heritage are illegal. Quite the contrary. What you fail to realize is many, many of them came here the legal way. They became citizens or gained permanent residence stays. They’re pros if their heritage but they’re also proud to be Americans. And they are vocal about those coming illegally getting sent to the back of the line. Maybe live a few years in a border state where the issue is and then have an opinion @luckranger71

How old are you @bijouxbroussard

@JesseInTX Next birthday, 60.

So you’re on the fringe end of before Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation. Look I believe slavery was a horrible thing. And it wasn’t exclusive to America. My point I was trying to make is about reparations. I’ve never owned a slave. You’ve never been one. Is it fair to penalize me over something my great, great grandfather did? To me that’s not fair @bijouxbroussard

@JesseInTX You're the one who introduced the subject of slavery. I was initially speaking of the descendants of people who lived in Texas when it was part of Mexico, remember ? I live in a border state, too (California). I have a very close friend whose ancestors lived in California before the U.S. took it over. She recently received a letter from someone telling [b]her[/b] to "go back" where she "came from". And apparently it's okay to tell people that [b]again[/b]. Do you think [b]that's[/b] fair ? Just curious.

Look I introduced the slavery argument based off someone else saying Texas and the USA stoled Mexico and implied we should pay for that. Where does it stop that America pays for every bad decision ever made?

In my mind we have to secure our borders and tightlu because things are changing rapidly. You may live live in a border state but how close? I’m not trying to be rude but the first comment to my reply asked if I knew about Mexico at the time of the war between Mexico band Texas. Well hell yes I know. Maybe there’s times I should bite my tongue. What happened to the days we could all agree to disagree? Reagan and Tip @bijouxbroussard ?

@JesseInTX There's a precedent for the U.S. paying for past mistakes; payments to Native tribes, compensation for the U.S. citizens of Japanese descent who had their property confiscated and were basically incarcerated because of bigotry. There was initially a plan in place for reparations to the freed slaves. Had it been honored at that point, as part of Reconstruction, it would've been a relatively small amount. But it wasn't, and Andrew Johnson was so determined to ingratiate himself to Southern whites that he not only allowed Reconstruction gains to be dismantled, he allowed the South to establish restrictions leading to Jim Crow laws that lasted until the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Even Affirmative Action, which was supposed to help right wrongs was shared with not only people of color who had willingly immigrated to the U.S., it included white women---who turned around and became its strongest opponents after having benefitted from it. Actual reparations for the U.S.'s part in the Transatlantic Slave Trade would probably bankrupt the country now, and is impractical.
But the U.S. was supposedly founded upon principles of [b]freedom[/b]. And [b]that[/b] is why, even though
[quote] And it wasn’t exclusive to America.[/quote]
it should [b]never[/b] have happened here. No other country [b]claims[/b] to be 'the land of the free and the home of the brave.'

I'm not necessarily in favor of open borders, but our president has said that he wants more European immigrants, "people from places like Norway---not sh*thole countries"---and that bothers me, because it makes it clear that the legality is only a small part of it to him---it's [b]who's[/b] immigrating. And he's sending people back who legally came here, for medical treatments for example, stopping those treatments.
So yes, there was a time when we could agree to disagree. But right now we have a president who holds rallies disparaging not only members of his own government and groups of his own countrymen who happen to not support his political party, but he's also inflaming racial hatred and then pretending to be surprised when unstable people do things like that shooter in El Paso.

Goodnight people. There’s no way you’ll understand me. All of feel free to block me, What all y’all are implying without saying it directly is you don’t like Trump. That’s what I figured @bijouxbroussard

@JesseInTX And I guess you're saying that you do. You're right, I don't understand white supremacists or their apologists. And with Trump that's always his bottom line. There may be some blacks who can ignore that to get what they want from him. I'm not among that 8%.

@luckranger71 You prove yourself to be very divisive. Any anti-immigration attitudes in the U.S. today, you should know you have contributed to them. You project the same persona as an 1870 Carpetbagger. Do you understand the meaning of that?