I'm gonna say it. There are far too much of men dressing up in womens clothing going on around here!

Don't do it then.

I'm sure she won't. On account of her hating it.

@Sharon: never did never will 👍🏽

Hate is such a strong word, can't you just be indifferent. And then go about your own life missing out on all the fun!

Ok, reaaaaally dislike and lol what kinda fun really? I'm content with being a woman thanks

You know what they say, you become the thing you hate. It's like saying you'll n be like your parents, then one day you wake up and hear someone else's words coming out of your mouth.

@MissingNotes: how do you really know if you dislike something until you've tried it or met someone who is that way? Well if you can't see the fun I'm not telling. It's kinda like you have to be open to possibilities and enjoy creativity. Letting your opposite birth sex out to play is very I powering. I don't know, but I'd bet you'd like to be a guy for a night.

@MissingNotes: do you ever wear jeans and a tee shirt? If you have you're crossdressing. Up until say 60 years ago women were thought to be dirogitory if the were to wear pants. Jeans for women were invented until the seventies. Before that they had to wear mens jeans

@JoanieNewHampshire: And now only 50 years after women started wearing jeans we have men wearing thongs and bra's. What progress we have made.

the bra and panti manufactures think so!

@xcoinx: here's the thing. We would actually agree if you'd just say "I don't like seeing dicks in panties in men's icons"

@JoanieNewHampshire: We have made progress. We're no longer restricted to subset of clothing determined only by our sex.

@JoanieNewHampshire: I think if someone asked both you and me the question :"Do you support feminism?" both of us would answer "Yes." but the differences lie in what you and I think feminism's aims and goals should be.
Which is not surprising given that even amongst feminist theorists there is strong disagreement on those issues.

@JoanieNewHampshire: Here is the main thing that sort of keeps me from being able to agree with you. I believe your and especially Sharon's views and ideals do far more damage to society than good.

how?

im curious, where do you think we disagree on feminism?

Well lets start with the easier question of where we agree first.
We both agree than men and women should be given equal treatment under the law. We would both agree that a person should be judged by their own achievements and abilities not on their gender. On all these sorts of issues you and me would both be in agreement (more or less, maybe we would disagree on minor details but in essence we would both agree).
Agreed?

@xCoinx: agreed, though I'm curious to the minor details? Oh and honestly I feel the soft spot! Giggle

I'm going to wager though your going to get a smidgen chavanistic on the dets

@JoanieNewHampshire: I'll brush over the minor details quickly because they are not very important (they are but, in the discussion of where we disagree they are more an issue you and I would be able to debate and reach more or less a compromise) they would be on issue like the gender pay gap, legal rights a father should have and legal rights a mother should have, issues of abortion in the first trimester where 1 partner wants the child and the other partner does not want the child. and so on, issues where the devil will be mainly in the details.

surprise surprise surprise, we agree! U c feminism to me is about equality! One gender does not trump (cringe) the other!

On a side note I think you should do some research into the roman emperor Elagabalus, I think you will perhaps in him find one of the most sad and tragic historical figures who has been more or less forgotten today.
Elagabalus, was a crossdresser, and he enjoyed going out and playing the role of the seductive femme fatale.
The problem was he was never expected to be emperor (I don't believe he ever wanted to be emperor) but after the death of his father and brother he was the man (yea yea) next in line.
Needless to say, his lifestyle and the roman expectations of a man and an Emperor to boot made for a very strained relationship.
For example, and I do hope i'm not resorting to too salacious material here, while Romans were willing to grudgingly turn a blind eye and allow him to practice homosexual sex as well as regular heterosexual sex; when it came out that
1) He only engaged in sexual intercourse with women only to learn how to imitate a feminine role during sexual intercourse.
2) During Homosexual intercourse he adopted the role of the passive role.
It caused a huge scandal.
There is one testimony recorded where a Roman Centurion was down in the city and saw Elagabalus all dressed up and whatnot and for whatever reason recognised him as the Emperor and called out with a salute:
"My Lord Emperor Hail!"
to which Elagabalus in all his feminine finery, cocked his head, batted his eyelids and answered huskily "Call meant lord, for I am a lady"
This did not go down well.
In the end h Elagabalus, as did so so so many of Rome's Emperors met a tragic end.
Though Elagabalus is perhaps unique in that he did not want to be emperor, he did not want to Rule and be powerful, he was just a young teenager in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Again another example of the roles men are expected to play.

Now on the points where we disagree, and where I do object to men with profile pictures of themselves in panties, and where I cannot take FeetGuy, Aiyana's, Sharon's and the rest of them's view of if you don't like it don't comment.

Absolute freedom, expression without confine to any rules whatsoever and so on. These ideas are utterly absurd, people who prattle nonsense like that are not revealing that they are somehow more tolerant or more accepting or anything like that, what such statements reveal is that the person saying them has obviously not ever sat down and fully thought out their beliefs, what they are revealing is that they are bleating along with the sounds of the flock.