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Reflection2 · M
I didn't asked despite availability.
CarleighJ · 36-40, F
@Reflection2 that's a valid point. Do you think that you don't ask for help because you're male? Or is it you don't ask because you're unsure of how those you ask will perceive you after you let them know something is bothering you and you need help with it?
My experience with it is most males don't ask for help from females in their life like relative or friends though because they view that it will change how others see them if they let anyone other then their bros help them out or diminish the sense of masculinity, confidence and independence in some way. I think it is more the psychology of how guys self identy and how the guy perceives the stereotypical male should be, that leads to not asking for help when needed.
My experience with it is most males don't ask for help from females in their life like relative or friends though because they view that it will change how others see them if they let anyone other then their bros help them out or diminish the sense of masculinity, confidence and independence in some way. I think it is more the psychology of how guys self identy and how the guy perceives the stereotypical male should be, that leads to not asking for help when needed.
Reflection2 · M
@CarleighJ Interesting input from you. Thank you for taking time and putting your thoughts. It may be gonna long.
To begin with. I believe I was born like that and also I carved myself to this. I have always been serious type and reserved, with everybody. Its another thing, I still get along too well with my friends and family.( Its has more to do with our social structure here). My friends chose me to ask for help or when they want to be heard. I also always come forward myself if I sense there is a need to my friends/family. I have a reputation for that. So, I can freely ask any body support if needed and even they do come forward if they sense it. That was about, if I don't ask with the fear of disappointment. At rare occasions, I have asked for some gentle support.
Its my prime nature to do it myself, even if it takes a longer and rough path. Why do I do that. Never been afarid to do that. I am old school who believe to be a provider, if that makes me a musculine man? Yet, I am not an entirely stereotype man. By nature I tend to go for solutions. If I see it by myself, I do it or I simply put up.
As far, not asking a help from females? Well, I have spend my life in a man cave other than ep/sw.
Some people are just born that way. However, I have become bit light in nature now and open to try new experiences.
To begin with. I believe I was born like that and also I carved myself to this. I have always been serious type and reserved, with everybody. Its another thing, I still get along too well with my friends and family.( Its has more to do with our social structure here). My friends chose me to ask for help or when they want to be heard. I also always come forward myself if I sense there is a need to my friends/family. I have a reputation for that. So, I can freely ask any body support if needed and even they do come forward if they sense it. That was about, if I don't ask with the fear of disappointment. At rare occasions, I have asked for some gentle support.
Its my prime nature to do it myself, even if it takes a longer and rough path. Why do I do that. Never been afarid to do that. I am old school who believe to be a provider, if that makes me a musculine man? Yet, I am not an entirely stereotype man. By nature I tend to go for solutions. If I see it by myself, I do it or I simply put up.
As far, not asking a help from females? Well, I have spend my life in a man cave other than ep/sw.
Some people are just born that way. However, I have become bit light in nature now and open to try new experiences.
Reflection2 · M
@CarleighJ Made some corrections.
CarleighJ · 36-40, F
I'm like that myself. In my relationships, I'm the one family and friends comes to to get advice and sound prospective, act as the go between and just use as an outlet to vent in general.
Rarely do I get asked how I'm doing or if I'm doing okay. There was a point when I did ask for help but early on not even pre teen years, I learned that the only one that can help me is myself.
Mostly I feel as if my mind is used as free therapy session for family and friends. Ironically they are unaware that I have to see someone professionally to get different prospective of life situations I go through and support in general that I've been lacking from them for years.
Perhaps it is mearly that your friends and family figure that since you are able to help them work out their problems and issues when they need support that they figure you have no need for advice and support yourself or that they feel anything they tell you is nothing you don't know yourself. Like their perspective is that you got all your ducks in a row, composed and don't have any difficulty.
I say you as in general terms. Maybe it comes down to personality type predominantly introverted, logical and rational rather then extroverted emotionally. One of lifes mysteries I suppose 🤷♀️
Rarely do I get asked how I'm doing or if I'm doing okay. There was a point when I did ask for help but early on not even pre teen years, I learned that the only one that can help me is myself.
Mostly I feel as if my mind is used as free therapy session for family and friends. Ironically they are unaware that I have to see someone professionally to get different prospective of life situations I go through and support in general that I've been lacking from them for years.
Perhaps it is mearly that your friends and family figure that since you are able to help them work out their problems and issues when they need support that they figure you have no need for advice and support yourself or that they feel anything they tell you is nothing you don't know yourself. Like their perspective is that you got all your ducks in a row, composed and don't have any difficulty.
I say you as in general terms. Maybe it comes down to personality type predominantly introverted, logical and rational rather then extroverted emotionally. One of lifes mysteries I suppose 🤷♀️
Reflection2 · M
@CarleighJ I assume now our different cultural back ground come to play. So, I won't take any credit for that. Here, from where I belong, we smell it, if some one of us is in need. Its too common.
I don't take it as I believe a man is a man who make it for himself, doesn't matter less or more. Emotional support is way too much in this part of the world. In fact, some inspired by your part of the world, sees it a burden. Funny isn't it.
I don't feel like a burden bz I know when I am paralize or completely broken. I would be having lots of support.
If you feel burdened my friend. You should speak to your wife first. If can't. Your parents or any siblings. Its gonna do you magic and save money from therapies. Btw, find me of you ever like to talk 🙂
I don't take it as I believe a man is a man who make it for himself, doesn't matter less or more. Emotional support is way too much in this part of the world. In fact, some inspired by your part of the world, sees it a burden. Funny isn't it.
I don't feel like a burden bz I know when I am paralize or completely broken. I would be having lots of support.
If you feel burdened my friend. You should speak to your wife first. If can't. Your parents or any siblings. Its gonna do you magic and save money from therapies. Btw, find me of you ever like to talk 🙂
CarleighJ · 36-40, F
I don't feel like a burden to others more so I have the understanding that support of those that are suppose to be close to you should not be one sided if you know what I mean. The whole metaphor of, you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours should be going on all the time but it's not.
If you are there for friends, family and even a random person you don't know that looks like or seems as if they need something or just to talk, you should make the attempt to help or listen whether they asked for the help or not.
Just knowing that support is offered by someone you know or even someone that doesnot know you from the next person, even if they wish to handle anything by themself, putting the offer out is beneficial to the person to know someone notices and cares and ultimately leads to better wellbeing of society in general.
Culturally I don't feel that society on a global front takes the time to see how each other is doing, or to care for each other as a community anymore. It is as you said, no matter where you go, some people see taking the time to offer support even if it is minimal as a major inconvience and burden to take the time.
Also I have a husband but no issue taking a wife too if I could. Who knows the other wife might like doing dishes, I sure don't 🤣
If you are there for friends, family and even a random person you don't know that looks like or seems as if they need something or just to talk, you should make the attempt to help or listen whether they asked for the help or not.
Just knowing that support is offered by someone you know or even someone that doesnot know you from the next person, even if they wish to handle anything by themself, putting the offer out is beneficial to the person to know someone notices and cares and ultimately leads to better wellbeing of society in general.
Culturally I don't feel that society on a global front takes the time to see how each other is doing, or to care for each other as a community anymore. It is as you said, no matter where you go, some people see taking the time to offer support even if it is minimal as a major inconvience and burden to take the time.
Also I have a husband but no issue taking a wife too if I could. Who knows the other wife might like doing dishes, I sure don't 🤣
Reflection2 · M
@CarleighJ lol. I miss the f in your profile and thought you are a budy 😁