a question about incels.

@Reject self inflicted victims. None did this to them

@St0ut Every victim is self inflicted. If you think about it, everyone's technically a victim because no one can control what happens to them, but how you deal with this decides if you're truly a victim or not which is why it can only be self inflicted. Everyone has suffered, but not everyone chooses to blame others as a victim would.

@Reject They aren't victims. They are losers in denial of that fact and so paint themselves as victims.

Pretending they are victims is easier than admitting they are losers.

@MethDozer Well, they could be both depending on how you want to look at it. Anyone can claim the word victim, just as anyone can say loser. These terms are somewhat subjective because they're so broad in meaning. If they prefer to be victims then that's their complex. If you prefer to call them losers then that's yours.

@Reject Claiming you are victim, doesn't make you a victim. Thinking you ate victim doesn't make you one either.

@MethDozer Well, the way most people define victim is someone who was innocent or did nothing wrong, but they still got hurt somehow in a way that wasn't deserved. Right? Everyone's been there.

@Reject not quite. Losing doesn't make you a victim. Choices don't make you a victim. Not stepping to the plate doesn't make you a victim.

Your outlook here is exactly what is wrong with society these days and why we have these types.

@MethDozer Educate me then. What makes someone a victim?

@Reject Being a loser with no abilities is YOUR fault. Fault and personal choices do not make a victim
Want to get laid? Man up and stop playing victim. Heterosexual females aren't looking for a adult sized babies.

@MethDozer That didn't answer my question. I know it's their fault. Now how does this mean they aren't a victim? Because victim's are faultless? What a wonderful idea. It's no wonder people love that word for themselves.

@Reject Correct, victims are faultless.. Not hard to understand.

Now man up.

@MethDozer I don't see it that way. I'm
not why not being a victim means I need to man up but okay.

@MethDozer true women expect a man who can protect them, care them, feed them, and make them happy. I know nowadays we believe in equality and all, but we are still hardwired to the traditional gender roles. It's hard to eradicate that easily. Nowadays a man doesn't have to be strong physically, but financially, then they can have a woman they want even with a horrible personality. It might be true they won't stay so long, but at least they won't end up being incels. Personally I don't really care a man is financially strong or not, but if he is totally a loser like no job, horrible personality then I don't want to date such a man.

@Reject fix the autocorrect. No idea what that means.

@MethDozer There wasn't one.

@Swede

Swede, fact is neither man or woman, gay or straight. All shades in between, no.one really wants a miserable whiner who has nothing going for themselves. The few that do really don't have any self respect and aren't likely tonnage much worth themselves. The uncles have plenty of opportunity to get a date and get laid, they just don't want their female equivalents. They want to be a 1 and snag a 10.

@Reject so this makes sense to you?

@MethDozer Oh! My brain autocompleted the missing word in that sentence. What it should have said is "I'm not SURE why not being a victim means I need to man up but okay." My mistake.

@Reject No worries, I do that shit all the time too.