Yes, at that stage is more believable to be just a forming being. No sentience and no feelings, no heartbeat or brain. I don't really feel much about those. My only concern really are the late term stages. When a child is already kicking and moving about in the womb. I get that i'm not a woman and accept that I will never understand the struggle of womanhood so of course I respect your thoughts on it. How do you feel about late stage? This is after a woman has already endured many months of carrying the baby. I personally think it's better to just give the child up for adoption. I think infants feel pain at that stage. I'm just trying to understand both sides on this.

@SW-User I still think its the choice of the woman, the risks associated with it, the reason as to why she would abort all of that has to be considered too. I'm never going to change my view of being pro choice, which may sound stubborn but because of my own experience and meeting women in situations like that I know that pro choice is the right way to think and be. I appreciate you being nice and not rude and trying to understand my view on it

I personally still have my views on this as well. Whether that will change in the future remains to be seen. Thank you for giving me your input. It's given me something to think about. 😊

@SW-User a very good answer ! .....it takes us to the area of where a life " begins" ....and that is always a tricky one to make a case on

@Lana24 wish we could set the rule in concrete now !

@Wilcrooks yes that would be so wonderful :)

@Lana24 i know exactly what the bond is like between parent and child ...i have a 31 year old daughter Sally ...our bond is immense ...i just wished these natural bonds between parents and siblings were the same for everone.

@AgapeLove It probably depends on your definition of "catastrophe".
I was a young adult in the days before abortion became legal.
I remember the frequent news headlines.
I read the academic reports by doctors studying the cases that came into the emergency wards.
Women used to do all kinds of things to get rid of a child conceived by accident or rape.
They gave the babies to orphanages. Of those, some were adopted out to loving families: some others, one in ten, ended up in families where they were raised as slaves, brutally beaten, raped, and sometimes murdered.
Of those that remained in orphanages, on in three was abuse or sexually abused - these cases have been coming out in court cases all over the world - with the now adult children still bearing the physical scars.
Most suicides by women in those days were due to unwanted pregnancies - to avoid the shame of the way their own families and society treated single mothers.
Women took poisons to try to abort and often died of the poisons.
Women stuck knitting needles up inside themselves to kill the foetus, and frequently ended up half dead of septicemia in the emergency wards of hospitals.
Women went to back-street abortionists who were often no better than butchers,
and later died of the post-op infections.
Some women bore the children, and took out their anger and depression on those children as they grew, creating psychopaths in the process.
I was there in the days when these practices were commonplace.

While correct contraception is always the best way to avoid conception, no contraception is 100% effective.

I my view, condemning pregnant women to bear babies they do not want is a recipe for multiplying the cruelties committed against their children because, so far, no society has found a means to prevent these crimes.

@SensitiveGirl96 Well it's really up to her because it's her life. 😊

@SW-User The question should be can whatever it is, survive outside the Womb?
We all know the answer to that, even Neanderthal man!

@Harriet03 It is strange. I'd love to ask those who share my gender.

@Harriet03 There are about 600 different laws and statutes existing that dictate what women can and cannot do with their own bodies---nothing comparable for men. The GOP's "religious freedom" laws allow companies who provide healthcare to their employees to exclude birth control from their plans based upon religious beliefs---while still providing Viagra.

Misogyny ? Sounds like.

@bijouxbroussard They have the nerve, to call themselves Christians!!
It really is beyond comprehension.

@Harriet03 You love me dont you.

@MarmeeMarch Unconditionally, your my hero.