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Nativein21stcentury · 26-30, M
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
Nativein21stcentury · 26-30, M
Nativein21stcentury · 26-30, M
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
I don't believe that Jesus meant for them to use the sword on anyone, he wanted them to carry swords for a different reason. That's also why only two swords were enough for them, if it indeed was for the purpose of defending, then wouldn't they have made sure to get one sword for each disciple so that everyone could defend themselves? 38 Then they said: “Lord, look! here are two swords.” He said to them: “It is enough.”
If Jesus would have said "don't use the sword this time" or "if you use the sword you will die by the sword", then sure I'd believe that it was simply for that one time. But Jesus worded it as " Then Jesus said to him: “Return your sword to its place,+ for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword.", he said ALL who does it. If you're a true christian, then you should listen to his words. What does what jesus said tell you? Wouldn't it be the same if you'd use a gun instead of a sword? Then what good can come from using the "sword"?
Jesus clearly drew the line. He told us to never use violence, so that means that the two swords must have been for a different purpose than violence or defending.
If Jesus would have said "don't use the sword this time" or "if you use the sword you will die by the sword", then sure I'd believe that it was simply for that one time. But Jesus worded it as " Then Jesus said to him: “Return your sword to its place,+ for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword.", he said ALL who does it. If you're a true christian, then you should listen to his words. What does what jesus said tell you? Wouldn't it be the same if you'd use a gun instead of a sword? Then what good can come from using the "sword"?
Jesus clearly drew the line. He told us to never use violence, so that means that the two swords must have been for a different purpose than violence or defending.
Nativein21stcentury · 26-30, M
Luke 22:36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
He doesn't say, go out and buy two swords. He says "he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one". We don't know whether the others had swords already, or if they could only find two, but what we do know, is Jesus said whoever don't have a sword, get one.
Now if we want to know what the bible says about self-defense, which is what we have been talking about right? We can go to Exodus 22:2
He doesn't say, go out and buy two swords. He says "he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one". We don't know whether the others had swords already, or if they could only find two, but what we do know, is Jesus said whoever don't have a sword, get one.
Now if we want to know what the bible says about self-defense, which is what we have been talking about right? We can go to Exodus 22:2
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
Keep in mind that he never told us what they would use the swords for, they were walking through the wilderness and the swords could very reasonably been means of protection against wild animals. The fact that he didn't let his friend protect him with violence speaks for itself, that they did not intend to use them against other human beings.
The mosaic law was fulfilled by Jesus and seized to be during his time on earth, he established the new laws that include the laws that we should love our enemies and pray for them, and that we should not kill or use violence. A couple of examples to show that this was indeed the case, is that Jesus worked and made wonders during the sabbath and that he told us that we should no longer make sacrifices to God. Part of the reasons why he was killed by the jews.
The mosaic law was fulfilled by Jesus and seized to be during his time on earth, he established the new laws that include the laws that we should love our enemies and pray for them, and that we should not kill or use violence. A couple of examples to show that this was indeed the case, is that Jesus worked and made wonders during the sabbath and that he told us that we should no longer make sacrifices to God. Part of the reasons why he was killed by the jews.