Are you against or pro euthanasia?

@Picklebobble2 Well said. Bravo.

@Picklebobble2 It's different from abortion, as abortion applies to a potential being that has no say in the matter. Euthanasia is a more simpler situation, as it only involves the person in question.

@TheGreatLeveler Re: Abortion. You're a male it's not your body you get no input.

@Picklebobble2 You didn't read what I said.

@TheGreatLeveler I read exactly what you said. TWICE !
And, as usual for people who take the view you do, potential being or not, they get no choice.

About time logical thinkers started calling you people out on this stuff.
You're male, you get no input.

@Picklebobble2 Then you failed to understand the point I was addressing. The reason why abortion is a more complex issue, is that it's not just about the woman in question. That's why abortion is in most countries/states legal up to approx 20 weeks and illegal afterwards. As after that window of time it takes into account the rights of the unborn child. Pro-life proponents will argue that life starts at conception. I'm pro-choice myself, but I will acknowledge that this will remain a contested aspect. The difference with euthansia is that in contrary to abortion, the issue only concerns the party that wishes to self-terminate. That's where the difference between the two topics lie. That should have been pretty obvious without having to read it twice.

@TheGreatLeveler Again, i understood your point but you refused to acknowledge that a woman should have control over what happens to her own body and you don't.
That's why i advocate taking all male opinion out of the abortion debate.
Women are far more logical, they construct far better argument and are more than capable of discussing this issue than men.

It sadly is that simple.

@Picklebobble2 [quote]Women are far more logical, they construct far better argument and are more than capable of discussing this issue than men. It sadly is that simple.[/quote]

Here's where you disqualify yourself from the discussion. I'm not even going to give you a proper reply when you're posting content this ludicrous. Even a subtle troll would express themselves more nuanced.

@TheGreatLeveler Yeah,took you just four panels before you became insulting and refusing to debate something you clearly feel strongly about, but lack the skill or the thinking to be able to explain yourself adequately.

@Picklebobble2 I've already explained my position thoroughly. You responded by descending into unsubstantiated nonsense.

@TheGreatLeveler I advocate choice and you call it nonsense.
With every insult you lose more of the argument.

@Picklebobble2 It's amusing how you attempt to distort my commentary. The argument wasn't about the choice aspect of abortion or euthanasia itself. It's apparent that we both are in favor of euthanasia and have a pro-choice stance on the abortion matter. The argument was about the difference(s) between the topic of abortion and euthanasia. Your conclusion was that "women are far more logical, they construct far better arguments and are more than capable of discussing this issue than men". That's both not an answer to my elaborated position, as well as a ridiculous and unsubstantiated statement on its own.

@TheGreatLeveler And again, you think that because you have an opinion it carries some weight, my position is it doesn't.

@Picklebobble2 Indeed, it has become increasingly apparent that you don't have an actual counter argument to offer. Seeing as you don't have anything substantial to add on the matter, I think we can conclude that this conversation is over.

@TheGreatLeveler who are you (the non-host) to decide the value of the “potential future” is of a fetus.

There are many outcomes and “value to society” is hard to measure in a baby let alone in a unborn fetus.

I stay out of the abortion arguments for the exact reason picklebobble said.

I just wanted to point out your logical fallacy.