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Are you able to see the bigger picture?

[c=#003BB2]I can't afford to feed you![/c]

[c=#7700B2]You're never here at Christmas or my birthday![/c]

[c=#009E4F]Everytime I make a decision you trash it!
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[c=#804600]If I need your help I'll ask.[/c]

[c=#BF0000]When will I get to see you again?[/c]
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Miram · 31-35, F
Not in those sentences. I can't tell the context.
Peppa · 31-35, F
@Miram without saying so the person in the first instance is stating they are strapped for cash...
2nd I want you to be around for those special times of the year.
3rd nothing I choose is good enough.
4th you need to stop interfering
5th I really like you and want to see you again.

Can you see anything different?
Miram · 31-35, F
@Peppa

Yes, I do.

If I have to stick a label on it, knowing that the person was serious in all instances and talking to [b] only[/b] one individual, in that order, I would say it is indecisiveness that resembles bipolar behaviors, the mixed signals can come from fear of long term goals.
Peppa · 31-35, F
@Miram bipolar that's interesting. The person making the statements or the person it's being asked to. And I read an article that a psychologist wrote about modern society and our fascination with diagnosing others when we aren't trained to do so.
She states that people are fundamentally very basic but we complicate things when we add in things we know very little about instead of treating people as singulars. Anyway her advice was to look at a situation and listen what is being said like this. What's the bigger picture? 1. The concern is about money, and you being an additional mouth to feed.
Was there financial stability before you came along, has this person mentioned money struggles prior to this outburst? Has this person asked for financial help? Have you offered to help if you are eating there regularly?
If you can answer all these questions honestly you will usually find a solution. If there's still no solution and it's goes beyond isolated incidents perhaps it requires further attention and an external helping hand.
Miram · 31-35, F
@Peppa The person changing his mind rapidly. That's why I said there needs to be context. And context means why, where, time frame..etc. If he/she said those things in a week it wouldn't be like saying them across a longer period. Just a bunch of sentences isolated aren't enough to see the bigger picture.

[quote]. And I read an article that a psychologist wrote about modern society and our fascination with diagnosing others when we aren't trained to do so.
She states that people are fundamentally very basic but we complicate things when we add in things we know very little about instead of treating people as singulars. Anyway her advice was to look at a situation and listen what is being said like this.[/quote]

I don't mean to be disrespectful but I wasn't diagnosing a person. And a psychologist isn't qualified to make any diagnosis any way.
This is what I said: [b]it is indecisiveness that resembles bipolar behaviors[/b] It's not a diagnosis. It's a description.
Peppa · 31-35, F
@Miram these are individual statements, by different people at different times.
Hence the different colours.
Psychologists studies documents data alongside psychiatrists who are also medical doctors that are able to prescribe medication. They are both able to diagnose but one can administer mediation. Therapists also known as counsellors can only listen and offer guidance for the type of problems a person is expressing, if they believe it to need medical assistance they refer to a psychologist/psychiatrist.

This was a exercise based purely upon communication.

I wrote it so ambiguously because I wanted to see how anyone that responded would view such statements. Luckily for me you were only one will to vocalise your opinion. :-)

I could understand if you were saying that the person on the receiving end of this may seem bi polar. Because effectively it seems like they're a bit of a freeloader, who is insensitive to this person's feelings if it was the same person, requiring constant care and attention.

But the type person saying each of these things comes across angry/resentful, sensitive/neglected, confused/fragile, frustrated/irritated, lonely/needy.

When you viewed them as individuals did your interpretations change at all?
Miram · 31-35, F
@Peppa
Not really, only clinical psychologists and psychiatrists can make diagnosis, both here and in the US.
A psychologist is anyone who has a master in a branch of psychology. A clinical psychologist has a PhD.
I am a general physician and a resident in medical genetics.
With more context, the interpretation does change.

[quote] I could understand if you were saying that the person on the receiving end of this may seem bi polar. Because effectively it seems like they're a bit of a freeloader, who is insensitive to this person's feelings if it was the same person. [/quote]

Normal people display many traits associated with disorders in the DSM-5. That doesn't mean they suffer the illnesses. I didn't assume that about the receiving end because it could be a young adult and there are no quotations from them.

[quote]
But the type person saying each of these things comes across angry/resentful, sensitive/neglected, confused/fragile, frustrated/irritated, lonely/needy [/quote]

I believe that's because you have more information. People that aren't neglected, sensitive, confused, "fragil", needy can still utter those sentences.
Peppa · 31-35, F
@Miram @Miram well those are emotions that people can feel at any given time with a healthy and sound mind or mental disorder. So to claim possible bi polar is unfair.
I don't have more details they are random scenarios.

We have the same thing here in the UK. So I don't understand the confusion as their differences. She states she's a psychologist with a list of PhD bsc etc etcs.

She was diagnosis but merely challenging how were interpret what's being said to us, and learning to to see it beyond just what's being thrown at you there and then.

Like analyzing behaviour, a child is sat barely able to stay awake as their eyes fight off the sleep, you tell them it time for bed, they say they aren't ready.
This under the microscope, could be viewed in a number of ways.
But what information do you extract and does it have implications for something more in the parent child relationship.
As you dig deeper the age becomes factor in the equation and so on...

Good for you being a Gp, do you enjoy it?
Miram · 31-35, F
@Peppa

[quote] So to claim possible bi polar is unfair.[/quote] As I mentioned twice already, I didn't make a diagnosis or claim the person has bipolar.

It's a lot of work. The training as well as the professional development never end even when you are in a seemingly permanent position. Other than that I do enjoy it.

[quote] She was diagnosis but merely challenging how were interpret what's being said to us, and learning to to see it beyond just what's being thrown at you there and then. [/quote]

That's pretty much why I requested a context.