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What went wrong with the Republican party?

Seems like 10 - 20 years ago, being a Republican had some meaning you knew where they stood on things. Then recently it seems like with the Tea party and ultra-religious right they have lost their way. Not even beginning to count the insanity that has happened to them with trump.
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M1keW · 26-30, M
Just my opinion, but I don't think either party truly represents the vast majority of Americans anymore. The Republicans just seem to be too afraid to rock the boat too much, so they're pretty much content to not do anything at all. While the Democrats seem to have gone a little nuts, trying to appease a very vocal minority to the extreme left.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
so, race baiting, encouraging violence, separating children from their parents, breaking all our treaties, taking us to the brink of war, adding 1.5 trillion to our debt in a tax cut for the super rich, attacking people less powerful than you on a daily basis, lying, colluding with russia, all that isn't going a little nuts? @M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart Everything seems to be about race to the right, and the left, nowadays. Those caught up in the political discourse seem to be obsessed by race, and what people look like. I don't believe that the Republicans can be uniquely blamed for "race-baiting". IMO, the Dems do it just as much.

I don't know of many on the right (discounting the "far-right") encouraging violence. But again, one could easily say the same about the "far-left" too.

As for breaking treatise, and taking the country to the brink of war, you're acting like Trump is the first American President that's done so. 🤔

Tax cuts are a good thing in my book. I'm not a fan of redistribution of wealth anyways. So, I don't agree with you on that. And yes, on the surface, the cuts may seem to benefit those that already have money. I see that as a net positive in the long run. You know what people with money do with their money when the government doesn't take most of it? They invest it, and they build businesses. That's how you grow a country and improve everything, for everyone.

There's been absolutely no evidence of collusion with Russia. Even after years of investigations. Don't you think that dead horse has been beaten to death?
Pherick · 41-45, M
@M1keW Just a note, there is no evidence currently that trump had a direct connection to collusion with Russia. There is plenty of evidence that there was collusion with Russia.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
you need to watch something besides FUX news.. i would be glad to respectfully debate with you and show you all the evidence of how completely wrong you are, but it would be pointless. i have trie this numerous times with trump supporters.. you guys live in an alternate universe of your own personal "facts" .. @M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart So ... just because I disagree with you, you think I'm a "Trump supporter"? And even if I was, I'm not exactly going to welcome the opportunity to debate anything with you, when you resort to essentially name-calling right off the bat.

You need to not take politics and the American Presidency that seriously. Most politicians are bought and paid for by "special interests" anyways. Washington DC stopped existing to represent you, or me, a long, long time ago.
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Pherick The issue in question since the beginning was that Trump had colluded with Russia. That's clearly not the case. As for anyone else colluding with a foreign government to affect US elections, if the evidence is there, by all means, they should be held accountable and punished to the full extent of the law. Don't care which party they belong to.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
i didnt name call you, other than call you a trump supporter.. At a minimum, you are defending him or equating his criminal degrading bigoted behavior with democrats... we at least agree that most politicians are bought and paid for by special interests.. and that they don't represent us.. at least the democrats running for president wont take corporate PAC money, and they are at least trying to restrict the money in politics@M1keW
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
I just find hard to take anyone seriously who somehow thinks that the democrats use the same language or actions as donald did at his rally last week where he encouraged people in shouting "send her back" seriously.. show me ANYTHING democrats have done that is remotely similar to that. If it were remotely true it would be easy to show us examples@M1keW
Pherick · 41-45, M
@M1keW Also to note, the investigation is not done, Mueller very clearly said, "I can't do anything else, I can't charge a sitting President". Excuse my paraphrasing, but very much throwing it back to the people who CAN impeach to take what he had found and run with it.

Which is why its important Mueller testifies for Congress and that Congress gets unredacted copies of his report.

If there is nothing, there is nothing there, but it needs to be fully checked out.
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart Fair enough. You didn't call me out personally. But using "Trump supporter" as an insult is probably not a wise strategy if you want to reason with his supporters. And for the record, not outright condemning the man, and calling for him to be lynched, is not the same as "supporting" him. My stance is, America chose their leader, and as an American, I have to at the very least respect the people's choice, even if I don't fully agree with it.

I don't really want to get into a Democrats vs. Republicans debate here. There's too much of that crap that I have to suffer out in the real world anyways. I am still in college 😜. The only Dems I find reasonable in the current climate are Andrew Yang, and Tulsi. The rest just seem nuts to me.

As for Trump's remarks about the 4 congresswomen last week. I don't disagree that in light of their collective comments, Americans should question how sincere these women are about serving the interests of Americans. But yea, calling for them to "be sent back" was pretty low. Not going to defend that stupidity for a second.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
i invite you to base your judgement of those women comments on facts and not on how donald portrays them. none of them hate america and he has lied about what they said.. they love america.. they want to make it better.. they are americans.. there of them were born here.. find me a quote that shows they hate america or secure terrorism@M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Pherick Agree with you about all of that. The investigation should be allowed to run it's natural course, without hindrance. Regardless of the outcome.
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart AOC seems to think America is the most racist and corrupt nation on earth, hell-bent on torturing it's poor. And Ilhan has said some pretty questionable things regarding Israel. I haven't paid too much attention to the others.

And no, I don't let Trump tell me what to think or believe, any more than I'll let Bernie or AOC do that. I'm asking for some skepticism regarding the sincerity of these Congresswomen, not asking for them to be thrown into jail. 😳
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
What AOC thinks is based on facts. just because she sees and reports trumps separation policy doesnt malke her a bad person who hates america.. it man she loves america and wants us to live by a higher standard@M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart I don't think she's a "bad person". I just don't think she's honestly interested in serving the interests of Americans. She seems to be more concerned with how much attention she's getting, and how much virtue signaling she get away with on a daily basis.

Just calling it as I see it.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
I think a lot of the attention sh tis getting comes from how terrified the GOP is of a strong, articulate, funny, intelligent woman who wont take trumps bullshit@M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart "... strong, articulate, funny, intelligent woman"

😂😂😂😂

Sorry, had to laugh at that. I know some very strong, articulate, funny, and intelligent women. AOC is none of that.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
you mean,, kelly ann conway? or michelle obama...@M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart Nope, neither of those idiots. In case you haven't caught on, I don't have a very high opinion of anyone in politics. Regardless of which side of the aisle they're on.

Let me throw in celebrities as well. I don't think it takes a lot of brains in today's climate, to be successful in the media, or politics. Most of it just seems to boil down to virtue signaling, either for the right, or the left.

Honesty, integrity, humility, and intellect are rare commodities in both DC, and LA.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
well, i agree with you on that.. but not entirely. Putin wants us all to be completely cynical about all politicians and lose hope.. i see some amazing people and leaders despite all the corruption@M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart Then I guess you're a better man than I am, as far as still having some hope for a political solution to our troubles.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
we agree that money is noe of the biggest problems in politics, and that it corrupts.. All the democrats, especially bernie and warren, want to eliminate the corrupting influence of money.. can you at least see THAT is a virtue in them?@M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart Yup. That, I do agree with you about. I don't have a problem with small individual donors. But I'd even put a cap on how much each donor can donate. But the special interest money definitely needs to go.
Anopenheart · 51-55, M
that is a cornerstone of the democratic platform.. getting rid of the money so politicians are more accountable.. the GOP has fought against every single attempt to limit money or dark money.. The democrats are at least working to make healthcare more affordable and available to everyone. @M1keW
M1keW · 26-30, M
@Anopenheart While I don't agree with the Republican stance on donations 100%. I also don't agree with the Democratic solution to all that ails America. The way I see it, the Democratic position can be boiled down, in most case, to "let the government run this for everyone". I'm a small-government guy, and not at all sold on socialism.

The way to make healthcare more affordable is to get the government out of it. The biggest reason that healthcare costs so much in America, is because it is one of the most heavily regulated industries in the country. You want lower prices, which come about due to greater efficiency, deregulate healthcare, and increase competition in the market.