@Sarin You and I may, but most can't. I can't even post certain ideas without being insulted, threatened, and blocked. Those freedoms have to be protected and enforced by the gov't, because people can't fucking handle their shit. And Communists/Post-Modernists are shitting up the place with their vile rhetoric.
@quietlitany Okay, i see your point. But what I'm trying to say is that if we focus first on the individuals and worked our way up we could bridge the divide.
@quietlitany lol did the post modernist communists relay that to you through the lizard people because gay frogs melt steel chemtrails or whatever the new conspiracy theory is?
@basilfawlty89 Post-modernism is an offshoot from Marxism, which saw Communism implemented. I know people like you can't appreciate the fact that the architect of the Cambodian Killing Fields got his PhD in a French university where he picked up Communism, but despite your attempt to put me in the InfoWars basket, post-modernism is being taught in universities as a rival to rational thought. These people are out there and want to influence law. We're seeing that already in NY with the gender pronoun enforcement.
@quietlitany no, that's tinfoil hat rubbish and you're actually repeating Nazi propaganda as the myth of there being cultural Marxism is their bullshit claim.
@basilfawlty89 Are you claiming that those who believe non-whites are oppressed by whites and believe the system is inherently racist and needs to be deconstructed in order to usher in a truly just and equal system don't exist? Or are you calling them nazis?
@quietlitany which has nothing to do with post modernism and is entirely true. You can't claim you know what its like to be black or Latino in america as you're not black or Latino. So, maybe ask a PoC instead of assuming you're right.
@basilfawlty89 Their doctrine comes from post-modernism, so you're incorrect. They openly reject facts and logic and renounce them as tools to the white supremacy/patriarchy. I never claimed to know what it's like to be another race and coincidentally, neither would any non-white person know what it's like to be a white person.
@quietlitany no, it doesn't. Do you even know what Marxism is? Have you ever even read Marx? Also which facts are being rejected? Which logical fallacies are being used? Dont you lot reject logic when you think happy holidays is a war on Xmas?
@basilfawlty89 Post-modernism is what we were talking about. If you want to suddenly talk about Marxism because you thought I was an Alex Jones fan and you're finding you bit off more than you can chew and now you're getting your electronic ass kicked online, sure we can talk about Marxism.
Marxism is an economic theory at the barest minimum, but let's talk about what we really mean and discuss Cultural Marxism which uses the Marxist principle of the haves vs the have nots or better, the oppressed vs the oppressor. What exactly do you wish to discuss about it or did you just want to toss irrelevant fallacy definitions back and forth while insulting each other?
@quietlitany because you're trying to bring up bullshit conspiracy theories like the Frankfurt School. It's nonsense. Marx was hardly the first to point out the relations of the haves and have-nots. Proudhon, Henry George and Robert Owen long preceded him. And that's long before modernism, nvm postmodernism. Hell, Christ spoke about the plight of the poor, the sick and the immigrant. I assume you have heard of the Bible?
@basilfawlty89 Post-modernism is not a conspiracy theory, it's a school of thought that is within academia. People are quite open about that too.
Cute, but Marxism is its own thing. I merely gave it the 'absolute minimum', so nice non-point.
Marxism is to Socrates as Post Modernism is to Plato. Post Modernism was the result of Marxism being universally scorned by prominent thinkers who witnessed the horrors Marxism leads too. It was no longer taken seriously. Post Modernism thus eschews labels for themselves, but love them for others.
Nice Jesus Red Herring. I don't give a damn about religion. Stay on topic if you can. I dare you. Speaking of which, you've hopped back to Post Modernism and now you're claiming Marxism isn't the original...which I don't care if it wasn't an original idea, it's called Marxism, so get to explaining how Post Modernism is a Nazi conspiracy so I can embarrass you with links to Post Modernism in action.
@quietlitany The point is, you're conflating random stuff. Postmodernism did not start claiming there is a difference between haves/have-nots, nor were the first to mention racism, sexism, etc. Hell, far-leftists themselves criticize Postmodernism, see Chomsky for example (who is an Anarcho-Syndicalist like I am).
The point is your post which I responded conflated Postmodernists and communists (you literally put a slash in between), hence I'm not off topic with asking you how the hell you got to Communism from Postmodernism, when they have jack shit to do with one another.
@basilfawlty89 [quote]discuss Cultural Marxism which uses the Marxist principle of the haves vs the have nots or better, the oppressed vs the oppressor[/quote]
No I didn't. You're either not paying attention and made a mistake or you're straw-manning.
I want you to explain how Post Modernism and Cultural Marxism are Nazi propaganda, when
I noticed you're using various terms interchangeably. Marxism is an economic theory. Communism is the implementation of Marxist economic theory through state force/control. Cultural Marxism is a social theory that uses Marxist principles to explain societal disparities, please bear in mind they don't call themselves that, we do, but they call themselves advocates for social justice and many call themselves Post Modernists. Post Modernism is a school of thought that arose from Marxism and Communism as a result of both being dismal failures and uses some principles, but now avoids boundaries, making everything relative and deconstructing everything.
Stop using them interchangeably and explain how Cultural Marxism and Post Modernism is a "nazi conspiracy"
