@Lostinthefog I'm a Greek Orthodox Christian and I couldn't agree with you more.

I just don't get it. I grew up Methodist, and there was NEVER any issue with the separation of the crration story and evolution. It was easily accepted that they both worked together.

@Lostinthefog Same for me. Same for all of the Italian Catholics that I know. Same for all of the European Protestants that I know. Same for all of the Jews that I know.

@IstillmissEP oh yeah i remember this 🤣

I'm not a biologist. My daughter could tell you. If you truly want to know, and truly want to refute evolution, I suggest you actually study and discuss it with actual experts rather than believing what people who really don't have any idea are telling you. I took enough science courses to know the generalities and basic facts supporting evolution, enough to know there ARE tons of facts to support the theory. Specifics beyond that, you need to actually research and find what those who know what they are doing and done the work know.

@SW-User Yeah. You're probably right. I'd say making a man from dirt then stealing a rib and making a woman is probably the better call. Of course, them having two sons put a little crimp in the plan. Looks like one of them must have gotten Mommy pregnant. Freaky.

@SW-User cells don't carry information (what do you feel is being informed?).

Abiogenesis (the origin of life) is a separate topic from evolution.

One can (and should) discuss one without reference to the other.

@firefall good point

This is actually an interesting subject. Look up Madalyn Murray O'Hair. She filed her first lawsuit in 1960 and the separation of church and state began. It was in the early 60's if my memory serves me, that reading of the Bible and school prayer ceased.

@SW-User I wrote a paper on her once.

@katielass this 👌

@SW-User Of course I realize that means a lot of teachers would be fired. But is it about teaching the kids or is it about someone having a secure job regardless of whether or not they can actually do the job.

@katielass The question is very specific and does not encompass the other academic disciplines that you have listed. Apart from science. Does the "origin of man" not fall under the purview of science?

Perhaps I should clarify. The question I put to you was purely in the context of the original question posed. Therefore, I was expecting an answer that was congruent to the topic. Not a deflection about maths and English.

@softspokenman They just have to hide it. I think there have been many, at least agnostics, in the WH, but you are right, they can't admit it.

@SW-User, I wonder what would happen if we changed to; "We Trust In Evolution" or "Evolution Blessed America" ?