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What are your thoughts when it comes to 'white supermacy'?

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xmedleft · 51-55, M
And what's further...

Speech is indeed a protected freedom in the US, but there are certain reasonable limits.
So, yes, you're right racist pigs are entitled to their opinions and they are even allowed to air them in public -- technically there's no crime there.
Buuuut...
The right to free speech had been refined through the decades through Supreme Court actions and there's something there for those that don't forget the role of each of the three branches of government. Laws made through Supreme Court decisions can't really be preventive like legislated laws, but they do still have weight -- as long as we don't forget them.
While the Court has always upheld the right to free speech it has encountered the exact situations that we saw this weekend and may see in the future if these White Supremacist rallies continue to be a thing. In the 1890s-1930s "anarchists" and "bolshevics" plagued the US and while their leaders got to conduct their free speech their followers occasionally shot, maimed, bombed and killed for the cause -- sometimes right after their gatherings.
This weekend David Duke and certain other racist leaders spoke publicly in Charlottesville. They spoke to the crowds and they were recorded. THEN shortly after the rallies were broken up one of their followers drove a car through a crowd of unarmed counter-protesters, killing one and injuring 19.
If Duke and/or any of his cohort said ANYthing that could be construed as permitting, suggesting demanding or even encouraging causing harm for their cause or saying that the gathered White Supremacists had a responsibility or duty to perform any dangerous action ...

THEN David Duke and others saying such things can and should be arrested for violating incendiary speech decisions like
"government could regulate any speaker who would counsel or advise a man to commit an unlawful act." Masses v. US 1917
and
"government could punish all speech, including advocacy of illegality, that had a tendency to encourage illegality."
and
"government could punish speakers who had the explicit intention of encouraging crime." (these 2 from 1920s decisions including the Beverage--Orchard case)
and
"a danger need not be very clear and present if the ultimate harm shall be very grave." Dennis v. US 1951
and
"where advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action." Brandenburg v. Ohio. 1969 - an actual KKK case.

In short someone needs to review the things Klan leaders said at the rally and if there's any chance that Fields could have taken them as permission or encouragement then it's time to issue warrants for the arrest of those leaders. Their speeches are probably on news services and YouTube right now.
Get 'em off the streets.
FriendlyBryan · 51-55, M
Black people are, in general, physically superior to whites. They are bigger, faster, and tend to have more stamina. There's a reason sports are dominated by black people. Mentally? In the USA we do all we can to keep them down by allowing them to go uneducated or, at least, undereducated. But they are every bit as intelligent as whites.

And let's look at genetics a little. Every human on earth contains a tiny bit of Neanderthal DNA. Every human except those from Africa. Way back in the dawn of time, or at least human time, there was a single human species which lived in Africa. In time some of these humans moved up into Eurasia. Those nomads developed into a separate species, the Neanderthals. Those who remained behind developed into Homo Sapiens. Eventually a second migration took place, the Homo Sapiens moving north into Eurasia. There they encountered the Neanderthals and interbred with them. The Neanderthals died out but their DNA lived on in the Homo Sapiens they bred with, the northern tribes who went on to spread throughout the world. Only those who never left Africa were untainted by the Neanderthal DNA. Today, (feel free to look this up, it's easily fact checked.) only black people who have not interbred with whites are full blooded Homo Sapiens. The rest of us are all carrying a touch of Neanderthal.

I think it is reasonable to say that blacks may well be the superior race, if such a thing exists. Whites may be unconsciously keeping blacks down in a reflexive instinct to survive. Whites are most certainly not superior, they just got lucky in that they found themselves on top of the heap and they are doing all they can to stay there.
It's sad it even ever needs to be a topic honestly
Neiromatheous · 31-35, M
Would you like my honest opinion or the politically correct opinion?
FriendlyBryan · 51-55, M
@Neiromatheous, I just wonder what you mean by separating the two. I have a hard time imagining how the honest opinion of a civilized person could, in this case, be anything different from the politically correct opinion. So I invite you to clarify. Tell us your honest opinion. Tell us what you think of white supremacy. I'm genuinely curious.
Neiromatheous · 31-35, M
@FriendlyBryan "I just wonder what you mean by separating the two. I have a hard time imagining how the honest opinion of a civilized person could, in this case, be anything different from the politically correct opinion"

That line you typed is exactly why I separated the two, and that exact single mindedness is what I make a mockery of. It is the exact same mindset of billions of people. If someone's answer isn't the politically correct one they are obviously uncivilized. So there is no real point in me stating my honest opinion when it is not really the one people want to hear. But since you are so insistent I will humor you.

It doesn't matter what they do or who they hurt. In time they will be forgotten in the innumerable pages of history and all their radicalism, idealism, the good they did and the bad they did, will be as if it never existed.

I suppose I could have shortened it to "I don't give a shit." both pretty well mean the same thing.
FriendlyBryan · 51-55, M
@Neiromatheous, now, see, that's an answer I can respect. Not so much the "I don't give a shit" part but the part about time. Yes, all we do will be forgotten in time. All we are, all we say, ultimately all we create, it will all vanish, swept away by the tides of time. But isn't it the time we have now that matters most? I agree that the world, if it knows I exist at all, will forget about me soon enough. But while I'm here I like to do what I can to make things at least marginally better for those who are trapped in this moment with me. This moment is all I have. So I can understand the fatalism of knowing that nothing really matters in the grand scheme of things, I disagree with the idea that it doesn't matter right now.
SW-User
Why is it not illegal ?
xmedleft · 51-55, M
@SW-User because you cannot legislate intelligence, emotional stability or decent rational thinking.
SW-User
But white supremists don't have any intelligence, emotional stability or any decent rational thinking !
SW-User
Leadership by ability
SW-User
What's that?
squidgy · 36-40, F
Boil on the ass of civilization.
sogdianrock · 61-69, M
hi fiji0water0
Albinos of all races? Yes I like that. Works for me.
Best wishes
:)
adhane05 · 31-35, M
Perhaps it's to balance out the black supremacy?
cycleman · 61-69, M
Needs to be wiped off of the earth like a deadly virus...
NeuroticByNature · 41-45, F
😵🔫 i should shoot myself. Im tired of the "us and them"
xmedleft · 51-55, M
I think there are already too many people who are willfully stupid, so white supremacists just add one more kind to the mix. And I have to scratch my head at how this weekend there's an avowwed white supremacist march in Charlottesville, Va, a town that largely survives on it's large college (UVA). So these proudly moronic people are going to gather by a center of learning hoping to spread the message of how much better stupidity is.
xmedleft · 51-55, M
That thing that I thought was going to be stupid got stupider.
LittleUnicorn · 26-30
b u l l s h i t

 
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