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@OogieBoogie ^this^

@OogieBoogie

My sentiments, exactly!

@SW-User I kinda feel sorry for programmers... They get lost in their world.... And think we'll understand it.

My brother is JUST like this... It does my head in 😩

@TryingtoLava EXACTLY.

Wheres our story corner... Or confessions thread, or decent stuff in the shop... Or customising our profile...
Or our quirky groups back?

Or the abolishment of that stupid thumbs down thingy 😡

@OogieBoogie This feed thing is beginning to feel like someone's pet-project. Such an obsession with "options", and now alternate feeds with preset settings? It's totally ambiguous, and utterly mind-numbingly discombobulating. Plus I really don't like that I have to keep clicking 'New' to see the latest posts. Of all the "options", there's no option to set a main feed preference. It always defaults to 'Posts', which is totally random and out of sync. Ugh...

@SW-User Honestly, this seems like a great case study of sunk cost fallacy. Maybe a combo of that and, as you say, a pet project. Otherwise I am running out of other reasons that can justify the manner in which they double down on this.

@PirateMonkeyCabinet The doubling down is confounding, I agree. The point of diminishing returns was reached well before this point.

@SW-User Indeed it was. In fact, I can't see a good reason why they can't make it optional (or make a proper old-style feed an option) and include more "absolutes". Fully "time based" isn't fully chronological, can't differentiate between what kind of replies you want in feed vs. posts you want in feed, all the options are just muddled, no clear absolutes.

They've tried to justify it by saying this is needed for user growth, and that reverting it do the opposite. As said, they don't have to revert it, just make it optional. It is as if they fail to understand that user retention is part of user growth. You need to be able to keep users around and keep them happy and interested in order to stimulate creation of more content and more recruitment. What they are doing now is just alienating a lot of old-timer and preventing people from using the site in the manner that makes most sense to them and benefits them most.

And saying that, it's only a matter of time before we get another of those fabled statistics that doesn't actually provide the necessary variables to prove a thing.

This almost feels like those cases where someone goes through all their studies with top grades all the way, but once they have to deal with the practical reality of it then it all falls apart.

@PirateMonkeyCabinet I said something similar on another post .

These numbers if increase thet give us is silly.

We winge about the changes for weeks ...thatd account for the 5% increase in posts 😂

I feel it's just a flashy user screen, used to impress younger users .

I feel , dear one , we are out of date:

Who wants cognitively interesting posts , when you csn have a multitude of inane unanswerable ones that generate good numbers ?

@OogieBoogie I've mentioned that too; that measuring for increases right after an update provides a lot less accurate results due to people talking about this flashy new things and reacting to posts about it, not to mention that many of the updates have also been released close to special days/times of year (like the update around Easter, the update around Halloween) which again tend to naturally influence those numbers. It is as if they don't believe in the classic saying of "correlation does not imply causation".

But yeah, they seem to be interested in attracting a new demographic at the expense of the old one. We don't really matter anymore. I just want something simple, a neutral feed showing everything (and preferably replies from followed people like before). That ain't rocket science. It's absolutely achievable if they want to, but they don't want to provide that service.

@PirateMonkeyCabinet it will become a generic site like all the rest ...based on numbers and algorithms, rather than people and content .

I see it already.

I'm here less and less .

Tje posts are SO STUPID AND MEANINGLESS...

and people winge about how empty their lives are .

SW will become another algorithmic reason why😔


It was quality once:Laughter and wit, cleverness and thought.

Now it's becomong mindless banality and trollism .

@OogieBoogie I have nothing to add.

This is tinkering to a crazy degree.

Folks are experiencing change fatigue

@JoeyFoxx well put .

Thing is....tjrbyounger generation love it.

We are outmoded 😣


Those of us who kept this site a "thing " , who kept it a unique place to be - are no longer part of their algorithm.

@OogieBoogie Usually I would agree, but (barring those who came here after the updates) there seems to very much be a divide here. Seen my fair share of "younger generation" people who are not fond of this.

@PirateMonkeyCabinet oh I HOPE SO

I don't get it ... wasn't the downvote button supposed to "fix " a person's feed ?

This is typical obsessional overthinking .

So fixated on one thing, that the bigger picture is lost .😔

@OogieBoogie Nah, you nailed it. Programmer and IT people need to wrangled and kept in line or practicality and real world function goes out the window. They get obsessed and start confusing customization, settings, and options with usability and function. They just dork out on being able to tweak ever stupid parameter instead of asking why anyone needs ir wants to.

@MethDozer ikr!

I grew up with one ...he drove me insane trying to reinvent the obvious 🤣

@OogieBoogie I'm not a professional programmer but I am coding and computer nerd so I know the tendency. I see it in friends too who are full time legit programmers and it's almost impossible to get to think in the real world at times. There's this common personality type of wanted to nit pick and compartmentlize everything because they are so used to programming and that's how programming works when you're making a stack. Basically if they worked with people instead of computers many would be that annoying micromanager who gets in the way of anything actually getting done.


Elegant programming and user interfaces are "old fashioned". It's kinda xrappy because in many ways we are going backwards in software and IT to the days of several prompts, clicks, and screen jumps just to perform a simple function. Yet on those old days it was because that was the only way because nobody sorted anything out yet. Many in programming and IT have lost vision and are like that one eccentric guitarist friend everyone has who is always playing some discordant crap that everyone hates while they go off about how many odd time signatures they are using and how much fingering it takes ignoring that it sounds like obnoxious shit.

@MethDozer this is the best analogy I've ever read of programmers😂

Its so true .
.theyre playing jazz ,,while everyone wants rock 🤣

@OogieBoogie these are the people who think IOT is the best idea ever and refrigerators should have wifi connectivity and your phone telling you when your Pop-tart is done makes life easier.

@MethDozer yay for evolution eh ?🤣

@OogieBoogie Lol, right? My head literally started hurting, reading this. 🤕

@OogieBoogie completely agree with you 💯