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šŸ”„ SW Group & Category Re-Structuring (Feedback Appreciated) šŸ“©

[b]Hello SW Members! :)

We are looking forward to Re-Structuring our Group and Category format, as well as improving the list of Topics that will be available to post in, on Similar Worlds.[/b]


To be able to launch Similar Worlds and develop many of the urgently needed features in a timely manner, we imported mostly all of the Groups (as is) that were already available on Experience Project.

We also needed time to familiarize ourselves with the members here, their likes, dislikes, interests, habits, etcā€¦

Now that we have a much better understanding of our audience, [b]we would like to soon proceed with the re-structuring and consolidation of our many Group and Category topics that are available for members to post in.[/b]


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[b]A major problem we recognized with the original EP group structuring, was lack of relevance or inter-linking between topics, as well as redundancy.[/b]

For example:
If one types "Animals" in the Group search box, here are some of the results that may currently appear:


[quote]ā€¢ I Love Animals
ā€¢ I Love Animal Animals
ā€¢ I Love Animals Also People That Loves Animal
ā€¢ I Love Animals On All Farm, Nature Animals, and Out Door Life

ā€¦

ā€¢ I Hate It When People Feed Animals To Other Animals
ā€¢ I Hate Animals Abusers Alot Because Im A Animal Lover
ā€¢ I Im An Animal Lover And Hate Cruelty To Animals
ā€¢ I Love Animals And I Am Against Animal Cruelty[/quote]


As we can see, there are two major issues here:

1) Redundancy between groups. That many groups are not needed, when many are repeating the exact same topic/title, with only minor changes to wording.


2) These similar groups are not inter-linked/inter-related.

This means that two persons could each join one of these two groups:
[i]ā€¢ I Love Animals
ā€¢ I Love Animals Also People That Loves Animal[/i]
ā€¦ and have no connection/relevance to each other whatsoever.
They would not be able to as easily find related posts or questions without joining EACH of the very many duplicate groups about the same topic.

This is not well organized at all. It makes the site confusing and less relevant when it comes to the posts appearing in feeds, recommendations, searches, etcā€¦


[b]To resolve the two problems highlighted above, we would like to "Consolidate" all SW Groups, whereby [u]we will be merging relevant groups, as well as trimming out groups[/u] that have no relevance or interest in being on Similar Worlds.

We will also be working on a feature which allows members to submit/suggest new topic category suggestions.[/b]


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[c=#004A59][big]Groups? Categories? Topics?[/big][/c]

At this time, we are considering to reduce the separation between "Stories" and "Questions" on Similar Worlds.

Stories and Questions will indeed remain as separate features each having their own feed.
However, they will be more similar in format and options, as well as Topic (Group/Category) selection.

(For example, at the moment, you can only attach Polls to Questions, however, you will be able to do the same on Stories, if/when this change is implemented)

During the post creation process, the user will be able to select whether the new post will be marked as a Story or a Question (and it will appear in the appropriate feeds).


At the moment, on Similar Worlds.

[b]Groups => Stories

Categories => Questions
[/b]

We find that this adds to the "redundancy" and "lack of relevance" issues, as explained before with duplicate groups.


For example,
Currently there is both:
a) A Group called "I Love Animals On All Farm, Nature Animals, and Out Door Life"

b) A Category Called: Life > Pets, Animals and Nature

These "Topics" are currently not connected algorithmically in any way, on SW.

Therefore, joining the category "Pets, Animals and Nature" doesn't help in any way to see stories about Animals, Nature, etcā€¦


[b]To improve this, and also improve the user experience, we would like to merge the selection of Group and Categories under one umbrella called "Topics".

In this way, you can much more easily select what type of Stories and Questions you are interested (or not interested) in seeing on SW, and they will finally be relevantly filtered per your preferences.[/b]


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[c=#004A59][big]Example of SW Topics Structure[/big][/c]

I will attempt to draft an example below on how the proposed Topics structure may look like.

[c=#BF0000]Please Note that these examples being used below:

[b]1) Do NOT in any way suggest our endorsement, approval or opinion on any of these topics.

2) Are being used because I feel they are easier examples to understand/relate to (being polarizing topics).

3) Are topics/ideas people discuss in real life, and has no indication on what is True or False, Good or Bad. We are a platform for sharing opinions and experiences. regardless how incorrect, inaccurate or false an opinion may seem.[/b][/c]


Our aim is to create a HUGE "Tree" like structure of all relevant topics of discussion.
They will branch from "Parent" Topics/Categories, down to more specific Topics.

This will help greatly for organization, relevance and filtering.

Examples:

[quote]Identity -> Politics -> Democracy - > News & Events
Identity -> Politics -> Democracy - > Politicians
Identity -> Politics -> Democracy - > Ideology
Identity -> Religion -> Democracy -> Terrorism
ā€¦

Identity -> Politics -> Republic - > News & Events
Identity -> Politics -> Republic - > Politicians
Identity -> Politics -> Republic - > Ideology
Identity -> Religion -> Republic-> Terrorism
ā€¦


Identity -> Religion -> Islam -> Praying
Identity -> Religion -> Islam -> Quran
Identity -> Religion -> Islam -> Fasting
Identity -> Religion -> Islam -> Terrorism
ā€¦

Identity -> Religion -> Christianity -> Catholicism
Identity -> Religion -> Christianity -> God
Identity -> Religion -> Christianity -> Satan
Identity -> Religion -> Christianity -> Terrorism
Identity -> Religion -> Christianity -> Homosexuality
ā€¦

Relationship -> Homosexuality -> Dating
Relationship -> Homosexuality -> Marriage
Relationship -> Homosexuality -> Divorce
Relationship -> Homosexuality -> Affairs
Relationship -> Homosexuality -> Legality
ā€¦[/quote]


As is observable all across the internet, such conflicting topics do appear very often on Similar Worlds as well.
People will have different opinions, points and things to say about varying topics.

[b]Our hope is to better categorized these posts, so that they can be shared between the correct (relevant) audiences.

Conversely, we can use such groups as filters also, whereby users don't have to see posts about certain topics they dislike.[/b]


For example, if you are tired of seeing "posts about Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton", and no longer wish to see those posts on SW.

[b]You will easily be able to filter (block) topically:[/b]

Identity -> Politics -> Democracy - > Politicians
&
Identity -> Politics -> Republic - > Politicians

or simply:

Identity -> Politics -> * - > Politicians


If feasible also, we will allow block filters by specific Keywords as well, such as "Trump", "Diaper", "ISIS", etcā€¦


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[b]Another dimension we would like to add to these SW Topics, is your "Stance/Preference" on each Topic.
This can also act as a filter as well.[/b]


[big][c=#005E2F]Like[/c], [c=#665D00]Opinion[/c] (Neutral), [c=#800000]Dislike[/c][/big] - Something along these lines


For example, someone can
[c=#005E2F][b]Like:[/b][/c] Identity -> Religion -> Islam -> Quran
[c=#665D00][b]Opinion:[/b][/c] Identity -> Religion -> Islam -> Quran
[c=#800000][b]Dislike:[/b][/c] Identity -> Religion -> Islam -> Quran


For the topic Titles, we are planning to allow them to be flexible, as Question Titles are at the moment.

However, the linked topic or sub-title may appear as: [b][u]I have an Opinion about the Quran[/u][/b]


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There is still much to discuss and share with everyone, still more planning to be done (the topics are still to be chosen, so those examples are not necessarily official yet).

As I discussed a lot of new things already, I'll pause for now, and give a chance to members to provide some feedback and suggestions.

Features such as the "Like, Opinion, Dislike" need to be thought out very well in order to be seamless with the site, user-friendly, and not too confusing/complex.
We have some ideas on how this and the other features could be implemented, but more planning is still to be done.


Thanks for your attention and support!
[c=#005E2F][i]-The SW Team[/i][/c]
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DragonFruit Ā· 61-69, M
I think the group consolidation ideas are good.
I think the stance/preference idea is horrible and will only cause additional problems....the whole ā€œverificationā€ fiasco (which you forged ahead with despite the poll showing it was quite an unpopular idea) caused enough friction. DONā€™T make the same mistake twice.

*BTW, Iā€™m sure none of the groups have an interest in being on SW (though some of the members may have an interest in them being here).
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Andrew Ā· Admin
[quote=Dragon56]I think the stance/preference idea is horrible and will only cause additional problems....[/quote]

I don't think this will necessarily be problematic.
It is more of a means to allow users to see the type of content they are interested in, while not seeing (or seeing less) of the things they dislike.

Someone may choose to post something Positive in the "Catholic" Topic.
Someone else may choose to post Negatively of the same Topic.

I believe it creates more conflict to lump Positive and Negative opinions together without any way of filtering.

Of course, no one has to Filter or select a "Stance".
It's all about preferences and control for each individual user.

So, if someone is a Catholic who posts regularly in the "Catholic" section, they should have the choice to filter out negative/anti posts which could flood the section, and may be disturbing/harassing to those with an opposite opinion.

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[quote=Dragon56]the whole ā€œverificationā€ fiasco (which you forged ahead with despite the poll showing it was quite an unpopular idea) caused enough friction. DONā€™T make the same mistake twice.[/quote]

We still see no true problem with the verification feature thus far.

Simply, some groups of users chose to lash out against the feature, and antagonize those who made the personal choice of Photo Verifying themselves.

As this is a website of mostly adults, we expect adults to understand freedom of choice, and that not every feature built is going to suit them perfectly.

Those who don't wish to verify simply do not have to.
We haven't seen any mistreatment from Verified users towards Non-Verified users.
DragonFruit Ā· 61-69, M
@Andrew There was a VERY real problem about the verifications, with people refusing to communicate with those who were not (or were) verified. The topic dominated talk on the boards, and despite the fact that you gave us a poll you ignored the results....resulting in bad feelings about the moderators. Do you really want to go down that path again? This change appears likely to do that.
I strongly urge you to reconsider this (though I know your minds are possibly made up like they were the last time). I see no reason to even have this feature, and some people will be inquisitive enough to start questioning others as to their choices.
I also donā€™t see the ā€œbenefitā€ of constantly filtering out differences of opinion (although this is called ā€œSimilar Worldsā€, some benefit is to be gained from differences of opinion).
As a former attorney, I understand freedom of choice....but I also understand stirring the pot unnecessarily, as well as the concept of ā€œif it ainā€™t ā€˜brokeā€™ donā€™t fix itā€. I just donā€™t see this making anything better, and I do see it possibly making things considerably worse.

Part of the problem with EP was that they ā€œfixedā€ things too often.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
-George Santayana
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Andrew Ā· Admin
[quote=Dragon56]@Andrew There was a VERY real problem about the verifications, with people refusing to communicate with those who were not (or were) verified. The topic dominated talk on the boards, and despite the fact that you gave us a poll you ignored the results....resulting in bad feelings about the moderators. Do you really want to go down that path again? This change appears likely to do that.[/quote]

We did not ignore the poll results. We took it into consideration, but have not seen destabilization on this site from the release of that feature.

Yes, in the first days/week, some chose to "rebel" against that feature.
The same has happened many times in the past, with new and necessary changes made to SW over time.
Now that has all quieted down. we do keep updated about current problems users have with the site, and we no longer see much users make mention of the "Verification" feature as being a problem.

Maybe a very small handful still choose to talk about it and make it a problem... while there are very many (much more) who are already using and enjoying the feature.

Please keep in mind that [b]Thousands[/b] of unique users visit Similar Worlds daily.

A small subset of users (say 5-10) still complaining about Photo Verification, hardly represents the vast majority of users.

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[quote=Dragon56]I also donā€™t see the ā€œbenefitā€ of constantly filtering out differences of opinion[/quote]

Again, just as Photo Verification, it is all about [u]CHOICE[/u].

What may seem unnecessary, or a bad feature to you, may not be the same for others.

You do not have to use Topic Filtering options if you do not wish to.
Each user can Customize their experience here as best suits them.

Some people are "ok" with reading/absorbing many different point of views.

While others simply cannot "handle it", and prefer to only see content from like minded users.
Especially when it deals with topics they are very passionate about, such as Religion, Politics, Race, etc...


I'll quickly quote an example I just posted to another user:

[quote=Andrew]Using your example:
[b][u]I am African American[/u][/b]

[b]One person could be positive about their African history[/b], and often visits that group daily to post positive things and interesting historical facts about African Americans.


[b]Another person, may want to use that group for more negative reasons.[/b]
They may commonly visit to post about "African American crime statistics", or other such things to antagonize that particular community.


Therefore, I find it very useful to allow users to simply filter away the more "Negative" posts, and enjoy using SW without having to see other members constantly attacking their point of views or topics of interest.

So again, it's more of a way for "Like Minded" persons to connect and interact, without as much disturbance from those of opposite point of views.

The feature can't be "perfect", there will always be those few who bypass the system or intentionally try to misuse the feature.
But I believe that it can at least be "Better" for the community, for the most part.[/quote]