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☑ SW Verification Mark without Public Photo 📩

Poll - Total Votes: 195
I like the current User Verification feature - 1 Badge Mode - No changes needed
I would like SW to have the other Verification Badge Modes
I do not like this Verification photo feature at all
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[b]Hello SW members! :)
Thank you for the feedback thus far regarding our new [u]User Verification feature[/u], and thank you also to those who have tried out this feature![/b]

We understand completely why some users may not feel completely happy with this feature, specifically [b]those who prefer not to have a public image of themselves on SW, yet would like to have the "Verified" icon appearing next to their username[/b].

This feature [i](the ☑ badge)[/i] was originally/mostly intended mostly to combat the ever growing issue of users being tricked and "catfished" on SW, by those claiming to be someone who they are not (sharing fake/stolen photos).

Those who post (or share privately) images of themselves (or images claiming to be them) can use this feature to help verify that they are indeed the person in those images.

This portion of our verification feature [i](the badge)[/i] was intended for users who are more public about themselves (photos), and not really aimed at those who enjoy using SW anonymously.

(The other half of this feature, the initial verification photo, is mainly for security/account recovery purposes).

We do understand that it still can seem unfair to many other loyal users, as they too cannot have such a badge without being public about their appearance.

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The SW Staff has not yet come to a conclusion regarding if and how we can improve this issue, however, we would like to put forward a potential idea.


[b][u]Would you prefer if SW offered different modes of the Verification Status (Badge)?[/u][/b]


[b]• [u]Publicly Verified[/u][/b] - Verification Photo visible to all SW Members

[b]• [u]Visible to other Verified Users[/u][/b] - Verification Photo only visible to other users who have also verified up to this level.

[b]• [u]Visible to SW Staff Only[/u][/b] - Verification Photo only visible to SW Staff.


[c=#BF0000][b]Please note that with each decreasing level, users will have less ability to verify whether or not a user is the person being claimed in their shared images.[/b][/c]

[i]For example:[/i]
[quote]You, a SW member, may be chatting with another user who has the Verified Grey Badge [i](Visible to SW Staff Only)[/i].

We the SW Staff will not be able to always monitor whether or not this user is sharing true images of themselves (nor do we monitor what users share privately), after having already been verified.
Neither would you or the rest of SW members have access to their "Staff Only" verification photo, to be able to cross-check their identity.

In this case, members would need to use more discretion when it comes to trusting who the user claims to be in their shared photos (since you are unable to see the already approved verification photos).

This is a concern to us, especially for new users who may join the site, and could be misled regarding the authenticity of certain other SW users.[/quote]


[b]We would like to hear your thoughts and feedback!

What do you think about this idea regarding the various Verification Badge modes?[/b]

Do you fully understand how and why the other more private modes of the verification photo (while having a badge) can be potentially used to mislead members?

Please share your opinions, suggestions, thoughts on this new Verification feature and how we may be able to improve it.

Thank you,
[i][c=#005E2F]-The SW Team[/c][/i]

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[c=#004A59][big]Updates:[/big][/c]

[u]Regarding the option of having [b]"Friends Only see your Verification Photo"[/b].[/u]

This defeats a lot of the purpose of this verification feature, and is about equivalent of using the "Staff Only" option, while posting the image also to your "Friends Only" album.

The issue with this idea is that someone can easily have:

[b]• 0 Friends.
• All Friends are alternate accounts of their own.[/b]

It is not a useful way of adding trust to someone's verification.

The reason why we opt to have other Verified users be able to see the photo (as the 2nd option), is that there is more validity in this method, as other users who are not directly connected to you, and are verified/trusted themselves, can also verify your own photo identity for the rest of the site.

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[b][u]Regarding Not having other options of Account Recovery or Verification[/u][/b]

We [b][u]will[/u][/b] be looking into having other options for recovering your SW account in case of loss, such as: [b]Recovery Questions, Secondary Email Address, Phone Number[/b], etc...

Please keep in mind that we cannot develop everything at once. :)

Now that we have more feedback and new concerns from users, we can address such issues.


[c=#800000][Note: This was never a major concern to users before we released this new photo verification feature today, so we are a bit surprised that some are very upset for us not yet having other recovery options][/c] :)
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beckyromero · 36-40, F
SW is trying to sell photo verification as a way to recover one's account.


I have to say that is all disingenuous at best. In the event one did loose their email and password and needed to go this route, I take it that supplying SW with a copy of the photo will suffice.

In that case, why can't [b]ANY[/b] photo submitted to SW as a 'recovery' photo suffice?

A photo of their pet? A photo of their car? A photo of Neil Armstrong planting the U.S. flag on the moon?

Geez Louise!

You are all no doubt math whizzes. So tell us. What are the odds that someone trying to 'recover' someone else's account is going to know what photo or image the initial SW user selected to use as their recovery photo?

This is [b]NOT[/b] about account recovery.

This [b]IS[/b] about creating two tiers of users for everyone to see: verified or not verified.
HerKing · 61-69, M
@beckyromero [quote]This is NOT about account recovery.

This IS about creating two tiers of users for everyone to see: verified or not verified.[/quote]


Yes indeed!!


Now we just want to know why.
Nuno · Admin
@beckyromero A copy of the photo won't suffice. If you lose email and password, we will ask you to take [u][b]a new photo[/b][/u] of yourself with a new paper, to prove you are the owner of the account.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Nuno [quote]If you lose email and password, we will ask you to take a new photo of yourself with a new paper, to prove you are the owner of the account.[/quote]

Thanks for clarifying.

[b]I know you guys mean well.[/b]

And I'm sure most of us have lost passwords before.

But there are ways to "prove" who an account holder is without coming up with something that looks like DAPRA designed it. Many sites have 'secret questions.'

And like you or Andrew said, you are considering other verification methods. And I've now put out the suggestion about using a basic image verification method.