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☑ SW Verification Mark without Public Photo 📩

Poll - Total Votes: 195
I like the current User Verification feature - 1 Badge Mode - No changes needed
I would like SW to have the other Verification Badge Modes
I do not like this Verification photo feature at all
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[b]Hello SW members! :)
Thank you for the feedback thus far regarding our new [u]User Verification feature[/u], and thank you also to those who have tried out this feature![/b]

We understand completely why some users may not feel completely happy with this feature, specifically [b]those who prefer not to have a public image of themselves on SW, yet would like to have the "Verified" icon appearing next to their username[/b].

This feature [i](the ☑ badge)[/i] was originally/mostly intended mostly to combat the ever growing issue of users being tricked and "catfished" on SW, by those claiming to be someone who they are not (sharing fake/stolen photos).

Those who post (or share privately) images of themselves (or images claiming to be them) can use this feature to help verify that they are indeed the person in those images.

This portion of our verification feature [i](the badge)[/i] was intended for users who are more public about themselves (photos), and not really aimed at those who enjoy using SW anonymously.

(The other half of this feature, the initial verification photo, is mainly for security/account recovery purposes).

We do understand that it still can seem unfair to many other loyal users, as they too cannot have such a badge without being public about their appearance.

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The SW Staff has not yet come to a conclusion regarding if and how we can improve this issue, however, we would like to put forward a potential idea.


[b][u]Would you prefer if SW offered different modes of the Verification Status (Badge)?[/u][/b]


[b]• [u]Publicly Verified[/u][/b] - Verification Photo visible to all SW Members

[b]• [u]Visible to other Verified Users[/u][/b] - Verification Photo only visible to other users who have also verified up to this level.

[b]• [u]Visible to SW Staff Only[/u][/b] - Verification Photo only visible to SW Staff.


[c=#BF0000][b]Please note that with each decreasing level, users will have less ability to verify whether or not a user is the person being claimed in their shared images.[/b][/c]

[i]For example:[/i]
[quote]You, a SW member, may be chatting with another user who has the Verified Grey Badge [i](Visible to SW Staff Only)[/i].

We the SW Staff will not be able to always monitor whether or not this user is sharing true images of themselves (nor do we monitor what users share privately), after having already been verified.
Neither would you or the rest of SW members have access to their "Staff Only" verification photo, to be able to cross-check their identity.

In this case, members would need to use more discretion when it comes to trusting who the user claims to be in their shared photos (since you are unable to see the already approved verification photos).

This is a concern to us, especially for new users who may join the site, and could be misled regarding the authenticity of certain other SW users.[/quote]


[b]We would like to hear your thoughts and feedback!

What do you think about this idea regarding the various Verification Badge modes?[/b]

Do you fully understand how and why the other more private modes of the verification photo (while having a badge) can be potentially used to mislead members?

Please share your opinions, suggestions, thoughts on this new Verification feature and how we may be able to improve it.

Thank you,
[i][c=#005E2F]-The SW Team[/c][/i]

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[c=#004A59][big]Updates:[/big][/c]

[u]Regarding the option of having [b]"Friends Only see your Verification Photo"[/b].[/u]

This defeats a lot of the purpose of this verification feature, and is about equivalent of using the "Staff Only" option, while posting the image also to your "Friends Only" album.

The issue with this idea is that someone can easily have:

[b]• 0 Friends.
• All Friends are alternate accounts of their own.[/b]

It is not a useful way of adding trust to someone's verification.

The reason why we opt to have other Verified users be able to see the photo (as the 2nd option), is that there is more validity in this method, as other users who are not directly connected to you, and are verified/trusted themselves, can also verify your own photo identity for the rest of the site.

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[b][u]Regarding Not having other options of Account Recovery or Verification[/u][/b]

We [b][u]will[/u][/b] be looking into having other options for recovering your SW account in case of loss, such as: [b]Recovery Questions, Secondary Email Address, Phone Number[/b], etc...

Please keep in mind that we cannot develop everything at once. :)

Now that we have more feedback and new concerns from users, we can address such issues.


[c=#800000][Note: This was never a major concern to users before we released this new photo verification feature today, so we are a bit surprised that some are very upset for us not yet having other recovery options][/c] :)
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Tracos · 51-55, M
With all due respect.... And I do understand the desire for a safe and secure environment.

But:

You don't allow opera VPN anymore.

Since June you do log IP including location approximation for each session.

For VIP users you are likely to get credit card information.

And now you are retaining visual identity...

....

You are getting dangerously close to holding sufficient information for identity theft, which I would consider a serious concern.

Again, I understand your need, but I think you are on the wrong track.
@Tracos You can look at your account settings and see what ip address you've logged in from. No assumption necessary.
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Tracos · 51-55, M
Yaiks... I hadn't noticed how thorough that already was.... @AcidBurn
@Tracos Yet people are willing to keep giving up more of their info for the illusion of security. Tis a data miner's dream.
TeresaRudolph71 · 51-55, F
@Tracos Some of us have VPN's because we value our privacy. That doesn't necessarily make us catfish, or mean that we're up to no good. With the government snooping and monitoring people's internet activity, I think it's understandable that some of us take measures to try to keep the government from tracking our location.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@TeresaRudolph71

The way things are heading, in 30 years (or less) citizens in the U.S. will have less privacy and freedom than citizens of China have today. (And imagine how bad the Chinese will have it in 30 years).
TeresaRudolph71 · 51-55, F
@beckyromero That is a scary thought, and yes, I can see things heading in that direction. But I'm not going to make it any easier for them than it has to be. If they want my private information (my location, my search history, and my emails), I want them to at least have to work to get it.
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@TeresaRudolph71

See:
[b][big]China's Dystopian Tech Could Be Contagious[/big]
The PRC’s “social credit” scheme might have consequences for life in cities everywhere.[/b]

[quote]Known by the anodyne name “social credit,” this system is designed to reach into every corner of existence both online and off. It monitors each individual’s consumer behavior, conduct on social networks, and real-world infractions like speeding tickets or quarrels with neighbors. Then it integrates them into a single, algorithmically determined “sincerity” score. Every Chinese citizen receives a literal, numeric index of their trustworthiness and virtue, and this index unlocks, well, everything. In principle, anyway, this one number will determine the opportunities citizens are offered, the freedoms they enjoy, and the privileges they are granted.[/quote]

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2018/02/chinas-dangerous-dream-of-urban-control/553097/
TeresaRudolph71 · 51-55, F
@beckyromero Wow, that's really scary, but unfortunately it does look like a possibility. Thanks for sharing that with me. It reminds me of the TV show [i]Person of Interest[/i], only in this scenario, the machine would be used to control people, not to keep them safe.