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☑ SW Verification Mark without Public Photo 📩

Poll - Total Votes: 195
I like the current User Verification feature - 1 Badge Mode - No changes needed
I would like SW to have the other Verification Badge Modes
I do not like this Verification photo feature at all
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[b]Hello SW members! :)
Thank you for the feedback thus far regarding our new [u]User Verification feature[/u], and thank you also to those who have tried out this feature![/b]

We understand completely why some users may not feel completely happy with this feature, specifically [b]those who prefer not to have a public image of themselves on SW, yet would like to have the "Verified" icon appearing next to their username[/b].

This feature [i](the ☑ badge)[/i] was originally/mostly intended mostly to combat the ever growing issue of users being tricked and "catfished" on SW, by those claiming to be someone who they are not (sharing fake/stolen photos).

Those who post (or share privately) images of themselves (or images claiming to be them) can use this feature to help verify that they are indeed the person in those images.

This portion of our verification feature [i](the badge)[/i] was intended for users who are more public about themselves (photos), and not really aimed at those who enjoy using SW anonymously.

(The other half of this feature, the initial verification photo, is mainly for security/account recovery purposes).

We do understand that it still can seem unfair to many other loyal users, as they too cannot have such a badge without being public about their appearance.

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The SW Staff has not yet come to a conclusion regarding if and how we can improve this issue, however, we would like to put forward a potential idea.


[b][u]Would you prefer if SW offered different modes of the Verification Status (Badge)?[/u][/b]


[b]• [u]Publicly Verified[/u][/b] - Verification Photo visible to all SW Members

[b]• [u]Visible to other Verified Users[/u][/b] - Verification Photo only visible to other users who have also verified up to this level.

[b]• [u]Visible to SW Staff Only[/u][/b] - Verification Photo only visible to SW Staff.


[c=#BF0000][b]Please note that with each decreasing level, users will have less ability to verify whether or not a user is the person being claimed in their shared images.[/b][/c]

[i]For example:[/i]
[quote]You, a SW member, may be chatting with another user who has the Verified Grey Badge [i](Visible to SW Staff Only)[/i].

We the SW Staff will not be able to always monitor whether or not this user is sharing true images of themselves (nor do we monitor what users share privately), after having already been verified.
Neither would you or the rest of SW members have access to their "Staff Only" verification photo, to be able to cross-check their identity.

In this case, members would need to use more discretion when it comes to trusting who the user claims to be in their shared photos (since you are unable to see the already approved verification photos).

This is a concern to us, especially for new users who may join the site, and could be misled regarding the authenticity of certain other SW users.[/quote]


[b]We would like to hear your thoughts and feedback!

What do you think about this idea regarding the various Verification Badge modes?[/b]

Do you fully understand how and why the other more private modes of the verification photo (while having a badge) can be potentially used to mislead members?

Please share your opinions, suggestions, thoughts on this new Verification feature and how we may be able to improve it.

Thank you,
[i][c=#005E2F]-The SW Team[/c][/i]

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[c=#004A59][big]Updates:[/big][/c]

[u]Regarding the option of having [b]"Friends Only see your Verification Photo"[/b].[/u]

This defeats a lot of the purpose of this verification feature, and is about equivalent of using the "Staff Only" option, while posting the image also to your "Friends Only" album.

The issue with this idea is that someone can easily have:

[b]• 0 Friends.
• All Friends are alternate accounts of their own.[/b]

It is not a useful way of adding trust to someone's verification.

The reason why we opt to have other Verified users be able to see the photo (as the 2nd option), is that there is more validity in this method, as other users who are not directly connected to you, and are verified/trusted themselves, can also verify your own photo identity for the rest of the site.

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[b][u]Regarding Not having other options of Account Recovery or Verification[/u][/b]

We [b][u]will[/u][/b] be looking into having other options for recovering your SW account in case of loss, such as: [b]Recovery Questions, Secondary Email Address, Phone Number[/b], etc...

Please keep in mind that we cannot develop everything at once. :)

Now that we have more feedback and new concerns from users, we can address such issues.


[c=#800000][Note: This was never a major concern to users before we released this new photo verification feature today, so we are a bit surprised that some are very upset for us not yet having other recovery options][/c] :)
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Andrew · Admin
[b][u]Regarding Not having other options of Account Recovery or Verification[/u][/b]

We [b][u]will[/u][/b] be looking into having other options for recovering your SW account in case of loss, such as: [b]Recovery Questions, Secondary Email Address, Phone Number[/b], etc...

Please keep in mind that we cannot develop everything at once. :)

Now that we have more feedback and new concerns from users, we can address such issues.


[c=#800000][Note: This was never a major concern to users before we released this new photo verification feature today, so we are a bit surprised that some are very upset for us not yet having other recovery options][/c] :)
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@ArcaneAlex If you do.....could you do a post ? I'm intrigued too, but have little time to spend on such a search .
RoboChloe · 26-30, F
@Andrew [quote]Note: This was never a major concern to users before we released this new photo verification feature today, so we are a bit surprised that some are very upset for us not yet having other recovery options[/quote]

Because you decided to draw attention to it, shining a fancy light on how fucked up that is to not have as a thing for over 2 years at this point of running a website. You should have done this before launching the site.
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unknownpoetx · 36-40, M
phone numbers? what's next? physical address? blood type? grandma birth certificate? DNA?
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OfflineFriend · 22-25
@Andrew I have suggested 2 factor authentication for some time
@ArcaneAlex true - and it's always changing too. What was true for yesterday.....may change tomorrow.
CountScrofula · 41-45, M
@Andrew I think this is best thought of as an equity issue. If a useful feature is only available to users who engage in an optional process they may very very much not want to partake in, they're denied that feature. Even if they weren't concerned about it before... well now there's a goody being dangled they do not get to engage with.

Since the site backs a right to stay anonymous, implementing a secondary recovery system for anonymous users addresses the equity issue.
MeisterAndrew · 41-45, M
@OfflineFriend 2FA only makes recovery worse. Now you need an additional method to disable 2FA in case you get locked out of it.
OfflineFriend · 22-25
@MeisterAndrew I have use it on many other things like discord and steam and never had problems
MeisterAndrew · 41-45, M
@OfflineFriend Steam has additional ways of verifying your identity. Using 2FA on a site that already has no way of restoring access to your account is bad as it only adds an additional way by which to lose it.
OfflineFriend · 22-25
@MeisterAndrew I didn't understand well , apologize , could you explain it in more detail if you don't mind ? :)
MeisterAndrew · 41-45, M
@OfflineFriend 2FA is an additional authentication. Instead of having email+password you now need email+password+2FA to get access.

So previously you could lose access by losing email+password but now you can lose access by losing email+password or losing 2FA, because you can't reset email+password with 2FA and you can't reset 2FA with email+password.

That only makes the problem worse because they don't even have a way to reset email+password but now they also need one to reset 2FA in case you lose access to that.
OfflineFriend · 22-25
@MeisterAndrew oh I understand , thanks for explaining ❤️
beckyromero · 36-40, F
@Andrew [quote]Recovery Questions, Secondary Email Address, Phone Number[/quote]

That's all well and good but those options should have been implemented [u]first[/u], [i]before[/i] requiring our photos to recover accounts.