SUPERVlXEN · F
It looks like the usual suspects wants to distinguish the difference between a republic and democracy, however never take it further than claiming the US isn't a democracy... Let me introduce a short video trying to explain things a bit further, among others also if the US is a backsliding democracy.
[media=https://youtu.be/rKzGRHYTvMQ]
[media=https://youtu.be/rKzGRHYTvMQ]
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DogMan · 61-69, M
@DeWayfarer So you are pro fraud now because Trump is against it?
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DogMan · 61-69, M
It is a Republic, not a Democracy. If it were a Democracy the big city folks would rule
the country. That is why Democrats want to do away with the Electoral College, so most
of the country has no say.
the country. That is why Democrats want to do away with the Electoral College, so most
of the country has no say.
EBSVC · 41-45, T
@AllycatAD That article you linked is not about the kind of democracy that the US is. It’s about the old kind of direct democracy.
The US is a liberal democracy which is a completely different governmental structure to what that author is talking about. It is a much more modern kind of democracy with roots in The Enlightenment. As opposed to what that article is talking about which is the kind of democracy done in Ancient Greek city-states for example
That’s why at the beginning it says they currently have massive overlap and are largely interchangeable
Liberal democracies have constitutions (or equivalent documents) which are the ultimate power of law
The US is both a republic and a liberal democracy
There are some states for example where ballot initiatives become law automatically or the legislature HAS to pass them if the people vote for them.
That’s literally democracy.
It’s both.
The US is a liberal democracy which is a completely different governmental structure to what that author is talking about. It is a much more modern kind of democracy with roots in The Enlightenment. As opposed to what that article is talking about which is the kind of democracy done in Ancient Greek city-states for example
That’s why at the beginning it says they currently have massive overlap and are largely interchangeable
Liberal democracies have constitutions (or equivalent documents) which are the ultimate power of law
The US is both a republic and a liberal democracy
There are some states for example where ballot initiatives become law automatically or the legislature HAS to pass them if the people vote for them.
That’s literally democracy.
It’s both.
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whowasthatmaskedman · 70-79, M
Its definitely NOT a Democracy by any definition. And yet the people get to vote (if they wish) But once you factor in the gerrymander, the candidate selection process, leaving the public with Hobsons choice and the electoral college having both thumbs on the scale of vote value and finally the outright buying of the election by campaign contributions, I really dont know what to call it, except broken..😷
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
The US never was a democracy. It was always a republic. However in the last number of years it has become a petty tyranny and no I don't mean the POTUS is the tyrant. I mean the people who are actually running the show are the tyrants. The politicians are just window dressing puppets. Someone you can yell at when your property is stolen and your freedom is infringed and your neighbour is shot all by the state agencies.
NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
@hippyjoe1955 I am shocked because you actually got something right for once.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Pretzel · 70-79, M
I BEG your pardon!
we have the best political system that money can buy!
oh ..wait...
we have the best political system that money can buy!
oh ..wait...
EBSVC · 41-45, T
Most of the US identity is mythology
BizSuitStacy · M
The United States is a Constitutional Republic, and not a democracy.
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NativePortlander1970 · 51-55
America is a Constitutional Republic, we elect our representatives and senators, presidents, governors, and mayors, to legislate and to represent, as well as control government, otherwise We the People, would have every say with every bill passed through congress.
















