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There doesn’t happen to be any rocket scientists here, are there? No really??????

Alright, cards on the table — I’m not a physicist or an engineer. I’ve just got one of those brains that won’t leave me alone when it latches onto a “what if topic”.

For the last couple months I’ve been chatting with ChatGPT about plasma/laser/magnetic propulsion ideas. Half the time I don’t know what I’m talking about, but the conversations have been wild.
It knows all about physics and tells me why or why not my ideas will or will not work using it's knowledge.

Here’s the itch I can’t shake:
I’ve learned that most plasma/ion thruster experiments use noble gases like argon or xenon. Makes sense — they’re stable, safe, and predictable.

But has anyone ever tried ozone (O₃) or oxygen-rich plasmas for propulsion? I get that ozone is nasty for lungs and chews up hardware and did I mention kill you?, but doesn’t the reactivity maybe couple with plasma and magnetic fields in a way argon just… can’t?

I even found, well ChatGPT did:

A U.S. patent (US6145298A) describing an ion engine that uses oxygen and creates ozone as a byproduct.

A 2024 simulation study suggesting oxygen species (O and O₂) could outperform xenon in certain plasma thrusters.

So now I’m wondering: is ozone a complete no-go for rock-solid reasons, or is it just something avoided because it’s “too messy” compared to inert gases?


So chatGPT found me a forum for rocket scientist, believe it or not, but they have a gate keeper question that neither I nor ChatGPT can figure out the answer to.
So without the magic handshake answer I can't ask real NASA rocket science type this question.

So maybe if you don't know about plasma thrust stuff maybe you know what Mechzilla's arms called???
The answer isn't arms I will say. LOL

Thanks for any responses all are welcome. :-)
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bookerdana · M
The mechanical arms on the SpaceX Mechazilla tower are officially called chopstick arms😌
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@bookerdana OMG dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what they are talking about???? Dude I thought it was MechaGodzilla. LOL OMG!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you thank you thankyou!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)
bookerdana · M
@Dainbramadge Term coined by Elon Musk.....assist Google AI😀
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bookerdana · M
@Dainbramadge The Google AI did the heavy lifting and its usually wrong!😠
Then i begin to troll and insult it
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@Dainbramadge OK so you know stuff ..... What about my plasma thrust engine question???? LOL
Hey did you know that ChatGPT played chess against the Atari 1400 or something like that. Anyway Chat got beat by an 8 bit system. He claims the Atari was cheating. LOL
True story. :-)
bookerdana · M
@Dainbramadge How exactly does an AI cheat🤔 Taught to get all available info..bet he couldn't beat Stockfish
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@bookerdana Well the Atari isn't AI but it is 8 bit 1980's tech. LOL. IDK really how it cheated but that ChatGPT swears it did. LOL
bookerdana · M
@Dainbramadge Is Atari really an AI??? Ask CGBT how it cheated..cross examine it!
AdaXI · T
@Dainbramadge You need an Atari ST that's a whopping 16bit super computer, it will know what to do.
乂^◡^乂
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@AdaXI I know right. Old school is the best school. LOL