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There doesn’t happen to be any rocket scientists here, are there? No really??????

Alright, cards on the table — I’m not a physicist or an engineer. I’ve just got one of those brains that won’t leave me alone when it latches onto a “what if topic”.

For the last couple months I’ve been chatting with ChatGPT about plasma/laser/magnetic propulsion ideas. Half the time I don’t know what I’m talking about, but the conversations have been wild.
It knows all about physics and tells me why or why not my ideas will or will not work using it's knowledge.

Here’s the itch I can’t shake:
I’ve learned that most plasma/ion thruster experiments use noble gases like argon or xenon. Makes sense — they’re stable, safe, and predictable.

But has anyone ever tried ozone (O₃) or oxygen-rich plasmas for propulsion? I get that ozone is nasty for lungs and chews up hardware and did I mention kill you?, but doesn’t the reactivity maybe couple with plasma and magnetic fields in a way argon just… can’t?

I even found, well ChatGPT did:

A U.S. patent (US6145298A) describing an ion engine that uses oxygen and creates ozone as a byproduct.

A 2024 simulation study suggesting oxygen species (O and O₂) could outperform xenon in certain plasma thrusters.

So now I’m wondering: is ozone a complete no-go for rock-solid reasons, or is it just something avoided because it’s “too messy” compared to inert gases?


So chatGPT found me a forum for rocket scientist, believe it or not, but they have a gate keeper question that neither I nor ChatGPT can figure out the answer to.
So without the magic handshake answer I can't ask real NASA rocket science type this question.

So maybe if you don't know about plasma thrust stuff maybe you know what Mechzilla's arms called???
The answer isn't arms I will say. LOL

Thanks for any responses all are welcome. :-)
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I used to build and launch model rockets.
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 That is actually really cool stuff.
Me and my boys tried to make a sugar powdered rocket motor once and I forgot the ration of Pat.Nitrate to sugars and did it backwards. LOL
It smoked pretty good. LOL
We made the rocket out of a paper towel roll with cardboard winds and a plastic Easter egg for a nose cone. :-)
Have you ever made or launched a multi stage one?
@Dainbramadge My uncle had a Big Bertha, that was pretty cool
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 I looked it up and even though I couldn't see anything that would compare for size it dose look pretty wild.
@Dainbramadge Estes made some great kits back in the day, but now they're just snap together kits
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
@NativePortlander1970 Oh man. They took the fun out of actually building a rocket and made it like put part one with part two and launch??