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[@BuzSuitStacy]

The US Army just gave a PowerPoint presentation featuring the 7 tenets of the Satanic Temple. It's unreal.

Yes, it is clearly NOT real. Do you have a link to something other than a rumor?

You are right about Fascism, but wrong about the who. Trump was Fascist. Check out the signs of it.

RE: The pandemic...
There are a few ways out of this:

1) Be smart, handle it like Taiwan & New Zealand, who have been exemplars of how to do it without vaccination.

Unfortunately, Trump steered us away from that and towards deaths we shouldn't have and vaccines which some of you don't want *because of his politicization of our lives, our health*...

2) Vaccination, not of some, but of essentially ALL.

Why? Unvaccinated ppl are fresh tinder for this fire, and unvaccinated ppl have been the breeding grounds for NEW, *stronger* variants, like the Delta one which is giving break-through infections, hitting kids, young people, etc.

Since a bunch of brainwashed whiners see conspiracies everywhere--except looking at what the people who are ALWAYS telling them to be fearful are GAINING from making them fearful!--and won't get vaccines, do you think they'd do the steps under #1?

No. So Pres. Biden is actually being the President and trying to save lives, even lives of people who hate him, slander him, etc., because THAT is what anyone who can read the Preamble and has that power SHOULD do.

People have been told, explained to, asked, cajoled, incentivized. If this *were* an invading power, we'd ALL be dead because of misled people like you.

Yeah, it's time to act, all right. That's what Biden is doing. Acting on the obvious need. Leading the country. Not tweeting at 2 AM to announce a new policy he just pulled out if his butt...or hiding in FL...or spending his time calling Fox or playing golf...

Wake up.
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@Max13 I'm not sure what you mean.

Wait, you are the guy overseas who regularly posts anti-American rhetoric. Ok, I understand.
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@Max13 You are prob working in Russia, comrade...
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@Max13 The Baltic REPUBLICS are not Russia's, bub.
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@Max13 Too much vodka to make sense. Go sleep it off.
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@Max13 Go play bombs elsewhere.
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@Max13 You are an apologist for Russian terrorists.
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@Max13 lol Nope. Bye.
@SomeMichGuy
Yes, it is clearly NOT real. Do you have a link to something other than a rumor?
Too lazy to look it up? Tucker Carlson presented this on his segment. And before you start in on an idiotic ad hominem attack, note, his show is viewed by millions...including those in the US Army. The Army didn't deny it.

Right...Trump is Hitler. We've heard that from the idiot left since 2016. Prove it. He's also supposed to be a racist. Then prove it. And lied 30 million times in office - each day. Prove it. Oh, but there is never any proof or real evidence. Just a bunch of idiots you watch on TV accusing Trump of these things. And the idiots, without a shred of evidence, all agree with each other, and you sit back there and eat it up.

It fascinates me reading your covid rants. How do you deal with all of the lies they tell you. It started with the bat soup at the wet market (even though we the smart people know the genetic sequence of the virus was manipulated in a lab). Started with Fauxchi's gain of function research at UNC Chapel Hill. Remember when you screamed at the TV and called Trump a xenophobe when he shut down international travel? Turned out to be the right move. They told us the shut down would only be for a couple of weeks...just to get over the hump. Fauxchi first said we don't need masks, then we should wear masks, and then it was two masks. BTW...the size of the virus is hundreds of times smaller than the holes in the typical mask. You'll stop more mosquitos with a chain link fence. Then they said HCQ doesn't work...and then the AMA had to rescind that statement because we found out the Lancet report was bogus. So then the narrative was HCQ is not FDA approved. Ohhh...not specifically for covid, but certainly for off label use. Has been for decades. Now there are over 300 clinical studies, more than 200 of which have been peer reviewed, proving HCQ is effective against covid. Remember as the election approached, and the vaccine was just around the corner, liberal talking heads screamed Trump is going to kill us all with the vaccine. But once the election was over and Biden was going to be president, the vaccine soon became the only solution. Why does the PCR test result in so many false positives? Why is it that when the true cause of death is something other than covid, but the deceased is covid positive, it's treated as a covid death? Why have there only been 1800+ cases of the flu reported this season, when 20-80 million cases are the norm? And then there are the morons calling Ivermectin nothing more than a horse dewormer...a drug the CDC and WHO consider essential, a drug for which its inventors won a Nobel prize and one proven to be a extremely effective against covid in all stages including as a prophylactic. Also FDA approved. Note: 80% of the meds on a veterinarian's shelf are suitable for human use. So, the gene therapies madquerading as vaccines were tested for how long before they were released under Emergency Use Authorization, including a liability shield preventing the manufacturers from being sued? There was 5 months of Phase 3 clinical trials. And did Pfizer get FDA approval? Nope. We got the bait and switch. The current Pfizer jab is still under the EUA and the company still has the liability shield. The drug that received FDA approval is called Comirnaty. But Pfizer won't have that available until 2023 or 2024. Do these "vaccines" prevent you from contracting covid? No. Do they stop the spread? No. All they do is attenuate the symptoms. You can ONLY spread the virus when you are symptomatic. That means if the vaccine's only function is to attenuate symptoms, then someone who is vaccinated is more likely to be a super spreader. How long does it take to fully test and assess the long term side effects of a vaccine? Several years. Sometimes decades. We just crossed the 1 year threshold on a gene therapy technology that's never before been used as a vaccine. How big is the VAERS database now? Thousands of people have died from the jab. Many more have been seriously and in some cases permanently injured from the jab. And the numbers are under reported because it takes 45 minutes to fill out the VAERS report.

All this for a virus which has higher than a 99.9% survival rate for people under 65.

And there you are...like a frightened child clutching your pearls in fear because you've swallowed the lies hook line and sinker. They've got you so brain washed, you are angry at people who don't want the relatively untested vaccine. Spewing the lies that somehow the unvaccinated are responsible for the mutations. Viruses always mutate, you fool. Do you think the deep state is ever going to let this go? What did Biden say at the UN? There will be another pandemic. No shit Sherlock.

But have you asked yourself why everyone MUST get vaccinated except, employees of Pfizer, Moderna, the CDC, the FDA, the White House, and the millions of illegal aliens pouring across the border that Harris and Biden are ignoring?

And you have the nerve to tell me to wake up? Piss off.
@BizSuitStacy
Tucker Carlson
So his show is viewed by millions, so it must be true?
Trump spewed provable lies to billions, and some still believe they are true...and I bet there's a huge overlap between these two groups...


Trump is Hitler

I never said this. Hitler died in a bunker in Berlin in 1945.
Trump is a Fascist, which means he is like Hitler, or Hitler-esque.

Here's the article about Fascism which started it all:

https://secularhumanism.org/2003/03/fascism-anyone/

Britt, Laurence W., Fascism Anyone?, op-ed in Free Inquiry, 23, #2
(Spring 2003).

This is what people have picked up on to look at Trump im comparison to not only Hitler's Fascism, but seven Fascist regimes from around the world.

Guess TC never covered this?


He's also supposed to be a racist.


I did not claim this.


And lied 30 million times in office - each day. Prove it. Oh, but there is never any proof or real evidence.

I never said that "[Trump] lied 30 million times in office - each day"...but I CAN prove what I DID claim, because of the work done by Daniel Dale, then of the Toronto Star, who kept a database of politicians' lies.

In fact there is TONS of evidence for Trump's lying.
The Wikipedia overview article helps to show how bad the problem was while he was President. (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump)

It includes two graphs you ought to see: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bf/2017-_Donald_Trump_-_graph_-_false_or_misleading_claims.png)

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The work at the Toronto Star is here (the database):

https://projects.thestar.com/donald-trump-fact-check/index.html

Note the title: The first5,276false things Donald Trump said as U.S. president

A story pulling together the size of the problem in his first year, alone, is here (https://www.thestar.com/news/world/analysis/2017/12/22/donald-trump-has-spent-a-year-lying-shamelessly-it-hasnt-worked.html) and says, in part:

“We’ve had presidents that have lied or misled the country, but we’ve never had a serial liar before. And that’s what we’re dealing with here,” saidDouglas Brinkley, the prominent Rice University presidential historian. “We haven’t seen anything like this. It’s a storybook, ‘emperor has no clothes’ kind of thing. Or it’s like dictators in countries where they just make up all sorts of crazy things and people are supposed to nod in agreement.”

That tens of millions of Americans are indeed nodding in agreement, of their own free will, has created a profound angst among Democrats and others who worry about a spiral into truthlessness. Some of them despairingly tell journalists not to waste their time fact-checking the lies, since facts have obviously become irrelevant.

...

This is no good-news story. Trump’s year of lying shamelessly has deceived tens of millions, fomented hate, left the world unable to accept even the most trivial words of its most powerful person, and forced Americans, like the residents of totalitarian states, to expend precious energy grounding themselves in the reality their leader is deliberately trying to get them to forget.
(Emphasis added.)

There is much more about this:

1) https://www.mediamatters.org/usa-today/usa-today-publishes-trumps-lies

2) https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidmarkowitz/2020/05/05/trump-is-lying-more-than-ever-just-look-at-the-data/

3) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/13/donald-trump-20000-false-or-misleading-claims

4) https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-lies-false-presidency-b1790285.html

with the title Final tally of lies: Analysts say Trump told 30,000 mistruths – that’s 21 a day – during presidency


Yes, you NEED to wake up.
@SomeMichGuy enjoy you delusions.
@BizSuitStacy Delusions? You asked for proof of three big "claims" you said I had made (though I had not made two of those claims).

You said

Oh, but there is never any proof or real evidence. Just a bunch of idiots you watch on TV accusing Trump of these things. And the idiots, without a shred of evidence, all agree with each other, and you sit back there and eat it up.
(Emphasis added.)

Well, I gave you proof, including overwhelming proof of Trump's lies.

So now, with citations and proof, you huff away.

Who NOW looks like the "idiot" listening to "idiots who all agree", "WITHOUT A SHRED OF EVIDENCE"?
@SomeMichGuy Well, today is big day for you. You see, what you've posted is called propaganda. Propaganda are lies used to manipulate people. Two kinds of folks spread propaganda. 1) Fools, or 2) People who stand to benefit. Guess what? You aren't a 2.
@BizSuitStacy

Evidence is not propaganda; your inability to deal with the evidence--which you requested and claimed did not exist!--shows you as the fool.

But, to quote you,

enjoy you[sic] delusions.
@SomeMichGuy Lesson number 2 for you sonny boy...hearsay isn't evidence. I mean who is dumb enough to believe Trump lied 30,000 times? Oh yeah
@BizSuitStacy

hearsay isn't evidence

Right. Which is why I presented evidence.

I mean who is dumb enough to believe Trump lied 30,000 times?

Who is dumb enough to believe that he *never* lied? I gave links from various outlets. You offer only bluster and insult.


How can you get to 30k lies?

You can start with the database, which is extensive and detailed; you have been given the link, and I posted about this long ago.

But, as an example, check out this article about some of the extensive facts collected:

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/12/29/fact-checkers-are-low-balling-trumps-lie-rate/

Entitled Fact Checkers Are Low-Balling Trump’s Lie Rate, it begins:

TheToronto Staridentified25 lies that President Trump told in a thirty minutesoftball interviewwith Michael Schmidt of theNew York Times. Some of these lies are fairly innocuous, like claiming that Sen. Diane Feinstein heads a committee when she actually serves as the senior member for the minority, i.e., the ranking member. Some are more serious, like his claim that millions of Americans are joining health care associations that don’t yet exist. My favorite lie is somewhere in-between.

If a person can lie 25x in a half-hour, or 100x every 2 hr, how many hours would it take to get to 30k? Here's how to figure it

(30,000 lies) * (2 hr/100 lies)
= 600 hr.

So, at that rate, Trump would only need 600 hr of lying to reach 30k lies. With 2 weeks of vacation each year and a 40-hr work week, that makes

(52 total weeks/yr - 2 non-work wk/yr) = 50 work weeks/yr

and

(50 work wk/yr) * (40 work hr/work wk) = 2,000 work hr/yr

Presidents usually work longer hours. But any President serving a full term has 4 yrs of work, so at least

8,000 work hr/term

If you think it would be hard to find 600 hrs in that very minimal schedule to lie...that's your opinion, but doesn't square with known fact.

So

600 hours of lying 25 times per half-hour gets you to 30,000 lies. THAT's how it can happen.

But you eschew evidence, so invective is your refuge.

FACT IS MY BASE, not rumor or wild speculation.
@SomeMichGuy
600 hours of lying 25 times per half-hour gets you to 30,000 lies. THAT's how it can happen.
Do you actually believe this? Two lies per minute? Trump couldn't if he actually tried. This is as stupid as the federal judges who claim you can pull trigger of a semi-automatic firearm fast enough that it's indistinguishable from full auto. Again...you couldn't come close, even if you tried. Go seek some psychological help and get reprogrammed.
@BizSuitStacy

Two lies per minute?Trump couldn't if he actually tried.

1) You might want to get a refund on your HS diploma:

25 lies/30 min = 5 lies/6 min
= 0.83 lies/min
< 2 lies/min
< 1 lies/min

So a bit less than the number you apparently made up.

2) I don't know if he *could* lie twice every minute, but in a monologue, it seems possible.

But here is the crux:

Do you actually believe this? ...you couldn't come close, even if you tried.

3) Well, he did. The list is not only in the Toronto Star database (I already gave the link) but it is also here

https://en.paperblog.com/trump-tells-25-lies-in-30-minute-ny-times-interview-1799305/

They are all there. So YES, I believe it, and YES it actually *could* happen, because, YES, it actually DID.

Game, set, and match.

Go seek some psychological help and get reprogrammed.

LMAO Seems like you're projecting. But it does invite a pretty obvious observation...
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