@NewBeginnings7790 that's too bad ... I just tried vegan cheese for the first time maybe a month ago at Costco (I normally avoid the demo carts at Costco, but I had been wanting to try vegan cheese for a long time) ... and I was really surprised how good it was, it seemed like it would be a good subsitute so we could stop slaughtering calves born to keep dairy cattle producing (until they too are slaughtered after relatively few cycles)