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does kneeling for a dom mean the same as submitting

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Kneeling for a Dom is the same as submitting to a Dom
Kneeling for a Dom is differant than submitting to a Dom
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I have a submissive friend who says she kneels for a Dom but that its not the same as submitting to him,
I disagree with that ,She says she only does it because he request her to kneel when there talking , i told her your submitting to him she says she isn't .
so will some Doms or subs give me some there thoughts about this .
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herDestiny · 36-40, F Best Comment
Well, I know from experience that submission can be triggered and it can be automatic like a reflex. It’s disorienting when that happens, it can also feel like a betrayal, but I’m not sure who is responsible for it. It may be a betrayal from oneself. A reflex isn’t a choice, If something flies toward your face, you dodge it without thinking.

Submission is a choice, it is not submission if no choice was made. So if it was triggered or forced, that would mean that it wasn’t a choice, which means that triggered or forced kneeling doesn’t fall under the definition of submission.
dominateofyou · 61-69, M
@herDestiny I agree and explained like that makes perfect sense that is why i posted this question to gather some thoughts and input from other people thanks for your reply
dominateofyou · 61-69, M
@herDestiny I also still believe a submissive can not have 2 doms as she can not serve both of them equally , and the quality of her submission and being cared by the dom is minimized because she has difficulty being honest to each of them ,and that gives her and then to much stress they end up competing for her submission .and all concerned suffer .
herDestiny · 36-40, F
@dominateofyou It is not factual to state that a submissive would have difficulty being honest. It may be true, but that is a subjective statement. The foundation of submission is honesty, especially if it’s online. A submissive who isn’t honest wouldn’t get much benefit from being submissive, except with the personality trait of literal language, due to one’s love of language. I have witnessed a sub having multiple Doms without any difficulties. What’s required is communication. The sub or Doms need to end things with anyone who isn’t willing to communicate with all parties. There is often no minimization in a Dom’s care, this is due to Doms not being willing to be dominant all day and honesty not actually being an issue.

An inability to serve both Doms equally may seem to be an issue, except in cases where neither Dom wants any service. I have actually seen situations where there has been no requirement of service and so the sub wanders around looking for some Dom to serve even while talking to multiple. How can a sub have confusion about who to listen to when no one is giving any instructions beyond eating and going to bed?

Personally, I don’t have any Dom at all right now. Having one would require communication and some instructions. I’m going to focus on other things rather than waiting around for a Dom to show up.
dominateofyou · 61-69, M
@herDestiny very well put and makes sense as the sub submits to both doms instead of being less and less to one dom . Maybe being told to eat and when to go to bed is what you need because you forget and you dont sleep and have a personality . by not being open what a dom your might make him feel you closing him off ,such as how was your day and you dont reply with anything other than it was ok , what he is really asking is for you to open up and tell him how you feel what happened that day he is asking for you to talk .
There are many kinds of service beyond sexual such as a sub taking care of her self for her dom , eating properly ,getting enough sleep, and letting her dom know when something is bothering her , getting on her knees when he tell her to ,
I am curious what sub had multiple doms ? and served them all .
herDestiny · 36-40, F
@dominateofyou I follow a Wordpress blog of a sub that has 4 Doms, it doesn’t interest me that much and I’m not sure why. I just get bored with it. Also, my friend had 2 Doms and had no issue with serving both.
dominateofyou · 61-69, M
@herDestiny And what friend had 2 doms , I can only think of one and one of her doms was here husband , If that is what you want tell us how that has worked out what do the 2 doms think about that arrangement.
dominateofyou · 61-69, M
@herDestiny the problem i see with 2 Doms is that im most cases the Doms dont communicate with each other or one is dishonest . from my understanding a sub must call other Doms sir but Ihave yet to here of a sub kneeling to any Dom she choses with with out her present doms permission if she dosent have a Dom then i think kneeling is ok i think its ok to kneel for a different Dom even if she is seeing a Dom but he hasent become her official Dom .