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AntisocialTroll · 56-60, F
Are you taking the piss? You do realise micro plastics get shed when clothes are washed? This pollutes seas and rivers and kills fish!
How is this good use of plastics?
How is this good use of plastics?
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@AntisocialTroll Sazzio is not taking the p***; but Primark may be.
There are plenty of other applications for re-processed plastics - obviously only the recoverable types - that are not inherently hazardous to wildlife.
There are plenty of other applications for re-processed plastics - obviously only the recoverable types - that are not inherently hazardous to wildlife.
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Since you live in the UK I am surprised you've not complimented all the rather sanctimonious "banging on" from the other direction; about how much plastic IS salvaged, processed and re-used.
Mind you, it would help if the loudest bangers-on gave any indication that they really know much about plastics. Judging by what we hear and read I suspect most know very little about plastics and indeed any engineering materials!
Mind you, it would help if the loudest bangers-on gave any indication that they really know much about plastics. Judging by what we hear and read I suspect most know very little about plastics and indeed any engineering materials!
pdockal · 56-60, M
Not all plastic can be recycled
It still comes from oil
It still comes from oil
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@pdockal A great deal of it is not.
Unfortunately everyone publicly concentrates only on the wanted result, not the means to that end, nor the unintended consequences.
As we've seen with the paranoia about Diesel engines and now with this so-called E10 / E5 petrol.
The diesel problem (exhaust nitrous oxides and particulates) has been pretty well solved as well as it can be, by modern systems and additives.
The new petrol is revealing itself no better than the "old" because its calorific value is lower - hence lower mpg, with a fuel that was also, always inherently and significantly less efficient than diesel. It is also harmful to some engine materials.
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I believe much of this stems from most of the politicians making the environmental policies and using fancy waffle-words like "technology", knowing very little basic Science and Engineering. They are not pressed on this because most journalists are just as bad. I doubt most of both sets know a Joule from a Watt, iron from steel, the full significance of petroleum or the engineering definition of efficiency - but they damn' well should.
Unfortunately everyone publicly concentrates only on the wanted result, not the means to that end, nor the unintended consequences.
As we've seen with the paranoia about Diesel engines and now with this so-called E10 / E5 petrol.
The diesel problem (exhaust nitrous oxides and particulates) has been pretty well solved as well as it can be, by modern systems and additives.
The new petrol is revealing itself no better than the "old" because its calorific value is lower - hence lower mpg, with a fuel that was also, always inherently and significantly less efficient than diesel. It is also harmful to some engine materials.
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I believe much of this stems from most of the politicians making the environmental policies and using fancy waffle-words like "technology", knowing very little basic Science and Engineering. They are not pressed on this because most journalists are just as bad. I doubt most of both sets know a Joule from a Watt, iron from steel, the full significance of petroleum or the engineering definition of efficiency - but they damn' well should.