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How to Destroy a Family Relationship

A member of my extended family owes me $5,000.

Just to be clear, this was not a loan.

All I’ve asked for up to this point is a payment schedule, but I can’t even get that from them.

Whenever I attempt to discuss the matter with them, they tell me they’re tired of talking about it and will send me the money “right away”, or “tomorrow”, or as “soon as I get home”.

Six weeks into this, and I’ve yet to see any of the money I’m owed.

This is baffling because this family member and I have always been very close.

Keep in mind this person is not dirt poor. In fact, they and their spouse have a much higher income (combined) than I do and have a more affluent lifestyle. They bought a big new house, host dinner parties, own multiple vehicles, take long road trips, and buy pretty much whatever they want. In other words, they have plenty of money.

At this point, I have to conclude there’s no intention of ever paying me the money.

I’m now looking into filing a claim in small claims court. Not sure if I’ll do it as it’s a pain in the ass. But no matter what happens, the formerly good relationship with my relative will never be the same.
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he's lucky you are a patient man.
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@ReptilianFromPlanetCrush I agree, but I have to say my patience has just about run out.
@Rutterman i dont blame you. my patience would be running real real thin. probably be having thoughts of breaking his knee caps. LOL
Justmeraeagain · 56-60, F
People get weird over money.
They might think 5,000 is no big deal, but to people with less income, that is a lot of money to lose.
Sorry, they are being dumb.
You could try one more time and say I will have to take legal action if my money is not returned by the end of the week.
Make sure you send a text for a paper trail if you have to go to court.
They are sick of talking about it; that is pretty bold.
Don't they think you may be sick of asking for it?
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@Justmeraeagain Yes, exactly. I am sick of asking for it. And I'm really sick of assurances that payment will soon be sent, and it never happens. This is not rational behavior.
I hear you and have a similar situation, so to speak. There will be a long period of grief for sure 😕
Karma usually catches up to them, that’s what I keep telling myself anyway.🤷‍♂
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@Iknowyourouttheresomewhere Very sorry you have to deal with something similar. Sounds like you're as bothered by your situation as I am by mine.
@Rutterman Yeah where its family that could do such a thing is unbelievably. It’s like one of you’re worse fears confirmed 🙆‍♂
It’s the greiving, that the person will no longer be part of your life going forward.
LeGrotesque · 46-50, F
I know this feeling very well. I'm sorry but in this world you can't even trust family.
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@LeGrotesque Yes. I know about your experience with corrupt family members. Just awful. I'm starting to think there are damn few people you can trust in this world.
GoFish ·
yeah they aren't going to pay honestly they probably spend way above their means and are bankrupt, credit card interests are high af right now and they probably maxed out and are too proud to tell you
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@GoFish If that's the case, I really wish they would tell me. I'd be willing to make some accommodations even though I think it's foolish to live beyond your means.
GoFish ·
@Rutterman yeah some people seem to have a lot of money but really they are broke with lots of bills or maybe made bad investments or some have bad addictions like prescription drugs or gambling or whatever too.. things aren't always what they seem.. sorry they did that to you tho
val70 · 56-60
Hope you'll get your money. Makes me think of that movie Point Blank (1967) somehow. These days one need to be very determined to get what's one owed. Strange, that never was like this in the past either.
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@val70 Thanks. I hope so too.

Hadn't heard of that movie before, so I looked it up. Sounds like a good one. I'll have to see if I can find it somewhere.
ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F
I’m sorry. Whenever I give friends or family money I do it with the expectation that I’ll never get it back.
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@ChampagneOnIce If you're talking about a loan, I have the same expectation. I basically consider it a gift, not a loan. This wasn't a loan, though. Wish I could say more about the nature of the transaction, but I'm not comfortable discussing it. Just know that I am owed this money and have every right to expect payment.
ChampagneOnIce · 51-55, F
@Rutterman That is so frustrating. I am so sorry!
Pretzel · 70-79, M
Going to be tough without a written agreement. Maybe if you get an email from them slldomehow acknowledging the debt.

I suspect the person you lent it to had something going in he didn't want his spouse to know about and that's why they would have a problem repaying it.

The relationship is probably gone.

Sorry to hear it.
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@Pretzel It might not be a viable option. Even if it is, I'm not sure it would be worth the time and effort.

Yes, unfortunately. I think the relationship probably is over.

Thank you.
Pretzel · 70-79, M
@Rutterman In my experience it is throwing good money after bad.

Depending on where you live it s just the judge's opinion that he owes you money. Which you already know.

On the bright side...you know they won't come back to borrow more
sarabee1995 · 31-35, F
That's difficult. I don't think I would go the small claims direction, but for sure I wouldn't be sending any Christmas good wishes. And I would ensure they never again had an opportunity to touch anything of mine. 😔
Rutterman · 46-50, M
@sarabee1995 I'm just considering small claims court right now. There's a good chance I won't go that route, either because it's not viable or because the time and effort required won't be worth it to me.

They definitely won't be getting any Christmas cards, well wishes, or gifts from me.
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Rutterman · 46-50, M
@deadgerbil It's particularly disappointing in this case. Never imagined my relative would do something like this.
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