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DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Idea is correct. Premise is wrong.
Why do think polygamy is illegal all around the world?
It's because of religion.
Religion exists to control!
Religion was around long before government. Shaman in the caveman era controlled the tribes.
Why do think polygamy is illegal all around the world?
It's because of religion.
Religion exists to control!
Religion was around long before government. Shaman in the caveman era controlled the tribes.
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer but what right does religion have to dictate a family when family makes the religion. Anyway all religions are a syndicate operation with no official registration in any democracy.
Religion is nothing but today controlling the tomorrow through scriptures. It's no different from fairy tales that infuse fear in young minds.
Religion is nothing but today controlling the tomorrow through scriptures. It's no different from fairy tales that infuse fear in young minds.
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer would be great if you can explain the premise part
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox very beginning. Time frame 0:10. "In the eyes of the law..."
This refers to the government. The very institution of marriage is religious. Not from the government.
Religion controls the government just by being the majority!
This refers to the government. The very institution of marriage is religious. Not from the government.
Religion controls the government just by being the majority!
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer that refers to common law .. to say family is not recognised by law since there is no registration system. And law prefers marriage system since they can deal with individuals who are mortals .. while family is immortal needing a registry.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox Now go to China. Ask: Why did they have a one child per couple policy and now they don't?
The beliefs of the people prevailed!
They are still far too over crowded! They don't have enough work for all the people!
The beliefs of the people prevailed!
They are still far too over crowded! They don't have enough work for all the people!
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer now this is totally out of context because because be it no child or one child, a family is a family. Technically it's not one child per couple but one child per woman. Even I would be starting another campaign Next Year of Birth 2030 to say that population is not a problem but uncanny birth is the problem.. now with all birth control available all women can get pregnant during a phase so they even get a township akin to Olympics that is held every 5 years.
But population is not what I am addressing now, but the entity called family. For instance siblings together form a family and register it.
Family is an intellectual house.
But population is not what I am addressing now, but the entity called family. For instance siblings together form a family and register it.
Family is an intellectual house.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox I'm talking religious beliefs. And I believe you are as well, because of the last few words in your previous reply...
That word implies religious beliefs!
BTW tell what you mention about Chinese laws to the very Japanese reporters on NHK news. They are currently doing a segment on their news broadcast about Chinese people and their culture.
They will at least be respectful before they crack up laughing.
Unlike the Chinese, the Japanese do have, a bit weird, yet a good sense of humor.
They'll even joke about incest. I saw that once on a Japanese game show that involved real incest, on the game show.
The joke? The father didn't know it was his own daughter!
while family is immortal needing a registry.
That word implies religious beliefs!
BTW tell what you mention about Chinese laws to the very Japanese reporters on NHK news. They are currently doing a segment on their news broadcast about Chinese people and their culture.
They will at least be respectful before they crack up laughing.
Unlike the Chinese, the Japanese do have, a bit weird, yet a good sense of humor.
They'll even joke about incest. I saw that once on a Japanese game show that involved real incest, on the game show.
The joke? The father didn't know it was his own daughter!
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer the problem is your knowledge where you have formed an opinion about everything and refrain to change. One example is you attaching the word immortal to religion.
For instance the work of Shakespeare is considered immortal until all copies of his work is completely destroyed.
Family is immortal as long as there is a member carrying it's name as Family name.
Mortality is nothing but a limited period of existence as against immortality which is unlimited.
I don't think I told anything about Chinese law , so I have nothing for the Japanese.
For instance the work of Shakespeare is considered immortal until all copies of his work is completely destroyed.
Family is immortal as long as there is a member carrying it's name as Family name.
Mortality is nothing but a limited period of existence as against immortality which is unlimited.
I don't think I told anything about Chinese law , so I have nothing for the Japanese.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox Shakespeare was totally influenced by Christianity!
You can see it in every one of his plays! You don't have to quote any religious books to be influenced! Just the attire was Christian!
You don't see any players wearing greek togas or Muslim burka's.
You can see it in every one of his plays! You don't have to quote any religious books to be influenced! Just the attire was Christian!
You don't see any players wearing greek togas or Muslim burka's.
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer and what are you influenced by to bring religion into everything?
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox because religion tries to control! Not governmental laws. And what you're proposing is just another form of religious control!
"IMMORTAL"!
BTW look up the etymology of immortal and "immoral".
Both the latin and greek deity's were both "immortal" as well "immoral"!
"IMMORTAL"!
BTW look up the etymology of immortal and "immoral".
Both the latin and greek deity's were both "immortal" as well "immoral"!
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer let it be so then .. because when you believe that everything is controlled by religion.. nothing can be done about your belief..
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox au contraire!
You're ignoring my initial comment!
Dump the religion however!
You're ignoring my initial comment!
Idea is correct
Dump the religion however!
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer no worries.. Family is superior to religion.. with a registration system, religion would just be a household affair.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox the idea of non traditional families is excellent! The idea of registration is control!
Use of the word immortal makes it totally religious control!
Drop the registration, you drop the control and religion!
And leave nothing but the non traditional family!
This society is in desperate need of broader ideas about family!
Not control in any form!
Use of the word immortal makes it totally religious control!
Drop the registration, you drop the control and religion!
And leave nothing but the non traditional family!
This society is in desperate need of broader ideas about family!
Not control in any form!
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer you assume things based on various illusions and myths. There has never been a family registration system. I have no clue why you bring control and religion, just because of registration. When you incorporate a business or company, you register and file a memorandum of association, after which your company attains the status of an Artificial Legal person.. browse for legal terms..
Similarly a family upon incorporation would become a Natural Legal Person.
Exactly.. and that's what family registration system is for.. Even same sex couple or group can incorporate their own family without need for marriage. Couples can also unite and form a new family. Monogamy polygamy etc is upto an individual. Marital law shall lapse, as wedding would be internal affair of families.
Similarly a family upon incorporation would become a Natural Legal Person.
This society is in desperate need of broader ideas about family
Exactly.. and that's what family registration system is for.. Even same sex couple or group can incorporate their own family without need for marriage. Couples can also unite and form a new family. Monogamy polygamy etc is upto an individual. Marital law shall lapse, as wedding would be internal affair of families.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox
Removed argument!
You'll do what you wish to do, even if it's bound to failure.
Perhaps you'll learn from that failure. Not a certainty even there however. Some never learn.
Removed argument!
You'll do what you wish to do, even if it's bound to failure.
Perhaps you'll learn from that failure. Not a certainty even there however. Some never learn.
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer of course.. it is better to fall than to do nothing or keep infusing fear into innovators. You need to think what you have done in the past 70 years and what you plan to do with remaining years of your Life..
Done anything for society or posterity or spent all life hiding from life.
How many you think I have seen who talk as if they know everything and keep laughing to themselves, without knowing that they are laughing against their own inability and complacency.
What do you plan to do with whatever wealth you have accumulated? And what you say applies to you, for you are part of the some who never learn but talk as if they know.
But if you are a learner, prove it by reading this book of mine which I have published as an Authority on the subject.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMPMN417
It's free on kindle for the next three days.
Done anything for society or posterity or spent all life hiding from life.
How many you think I have seen who talk as if they know everything and keep laughing to themselves, without knowing that they are laughing against their own inability and complacency.
What do you plan to do with whatever wealth you have accumulated? And what you say applies to you, for you are part of the some who never learn but talk as if they know.
But if you are a learner, prove it by reading this book of mine which I have published as an Authority on the subject.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMPMN417
It's free on kindle for the next three days.
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox you are speaking for yourself.
My life is at the end. I can only give warnings. Any can take them or ignore them. You will learn no matter what!
Think what has happened to the billions upon billions before all of us, that had no one.
Where is their registry? It never will exist! Nor will yours! The very people I spoke of will destroy any such registry. That has happened thousands of times in history!
Heck my own families history is destroyed! And it went back over 1,500 years! Closer to 2,000 years actually.
When I go, I will be the last to remember it! It was destroyed in WWII. My father was the last to ever see it, to my knowledge. Everything I know about it was from him.
So will happen to your registry! Nothing ever lasts.
History and memories only last within those that wish to remember! In my case my own memories of my own family!
My life is at the end. I can only give warnings. Any can take them or ignore them. You will learn no matter what!
Think what has happened to the billions upon billions before all of us, that had no one.
Where is their registry? It never will exist! Nor will yours! The very people I spoke of will destroy any such registry. That has happened thousands of times in history!
Heck my own families history is destroyed! And it went back over 1,500 years! Closer to 2,000 years actually.
When I go, I will be the last to remember it! It was destroyed in WWII. My father was the last to ever see it, to my knowledge. Everything I know about it was from him.
So will happen to your registry! Nothing ever lasts.
History and memories only last within those that wish to remember! In my case my own memories of my own family!
𝓗𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝓰𝓸𝓸𝓭 𝓭𝓪𝔂! 😊
in10RjFox · M
@DeWayfarer is the world ending or something? Has the world lived more than what it is going to live?
Your family may be is gone.. but that does mean a family cannot be started today with a clean slate.
Why do you predict the future based on past ? Heard of Bertrand Russell s quote that a new world began 5 minutes ago.. look for it where he says it's all just memory that dies with you.
So when you are alone think why you curse and warn and scare.. and instead why not I put my remaining life to benefit the future.
It's a different world my brother! The future is more wired and networked ..
Your narrow mind only let's you think of registry as some repository. Not beyond. But plans are much more and different which you have no clue about.
An app like Facebook is all that is
required for families to upload their documents/ testimonials.. and legacy gets created and logged on its own.
Just check how people recall their old photos from Facebook after some 20 years now..
Now go and warn people.. Facebook won't last since nothing ever lasts ..
Your family may be is gone.. but that does mean a family cannot be started today with a clean slate.
Why do you predict the future based on past ? Heard of Bertrand Russell s quote that a new world began 5 minutes ago.. look for it where he says it's all just memory that dies with you.
So when you are alone think why you curse and warn and scare.. and instead why not I put my remaining life to benefit the future.
It's a different world my brother! The future is more wired and networked ..
Your narrow mind only let's you think of registry as some repository. Not beyond. But plans are much more and different which you have no clue about.
An app like Facebook is all that is
required for families to upload their documents/ testimonials.. and legacy gets created and logged on its own.
Just check how people recall their old photos from Facebook after some 20 years now..
Now go and warn people.. Facebook won't last since nothing ever lasts ..
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
@in10RjFox
Your own mind has been made up! Your way or no way! No give!
Drop the registery!
Your own mind has been made up! Your way or no way! No give!
Drop the registery!
𝓗𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝓰𝓸𝓸𝓭 𝓭𝓪𝔂! 😊