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Why do some countries want to be ruled by another ? Is the idea of Independence too out of the Ordinary for them ? Places like Scotland , Wales and Norther Ireland accept being ruled by London with no problem at all ? Please satisfy my curiosity
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
Have you not noticed that that is a highly contentious issue, with many Scots and Welsh wanting independence?

The matter is different in Northern Ireland where the majority of the population want to remain part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, with the rest generally wanting Ulster re-united with Eire.

The more enthusiastic Scots Nationalists used to waffle about " an independent Scotland within the EU" - the membership referendum results in Scotland favoured the UK staying in the EU; but there is no guarantee that an independent Scotland would be able to join it, or would not end up as nett contributors (as the UK was). You don't hear that call so much now, perhaps as a reaction to the awful mess in Northern Ireland thanks to the UK's and EU's mutual nightmare of geography hitting the EU's tangled protectionist regulations. In any case, I've wondered if they eventually spotted the irony in that slogan!

Whether those nations could thrive alone is another matter. I don't think they have thought through all the implications, particularly funding in entirety all their public services, transport systems, etc; forming their own currencies, tax, vehicle and driver licensing, welfare, etc. regimes, and joining or signing-to in their name, the [i]ninety [/i] or so international bodies and treaties in which the UK is involved.

Many Welsh and Scots do want to stay within the United Kingdom but there are nearly as many Scots who want independence. I don't know the ratio in Wales.

As far as I know there are no Northern Irish wanting that, but a sizeable minority do want Eire and Ulster to be one country - Eire - governed from Dublin, not Belfast.
KALIS · 41-45
@ArishMell Thank you for that explaination. It seems like a complex situation . I guess the future will have some solutions . People of the same land have different loyalties
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@KALIS Oh, yes they do, with backgrounds going back centuries.
KALIS · 41-45
@ArishMell As complex as history can make it
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@KALIS Oh, certainly. After all, history is made by humans, with all their strengths, weaknesses, wants, needs, thoughts (or lack thereof!), emotions.

With a common tendency to look at the immediate and superficial, not deeper consequences.

With no ability to foretell the future, beyond intelligent or unintelligent estimates of possible results and consequences.
KALIS · 41-45
@ArishMell its said that the victors write the history
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@KALIS It is, though true it really is, is hard to say. I have a suspicion that in recent years there seems to have a sort of collective guilt creeping in to many areas, so biasing what should be unbiased, in other ways.