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It's disturbing how people will hate immigrants if one does a crime generally

But the majority of crime is done by citizens, I find it odd. So much grief in the world and one event has you hating people. Like the one thing I've noticed about people is any event will change who they are within the week. I've noticed that, like invasion of the body snatchers.

This is just my personal opinion, a lot of people seem like they are easily manipulated. I think it's because they don't have a strong sense of who they are or where they stand, they just go by events and that reaction will have them change completely.

To me, it just seems like if you can be shaken that easily then you just didn't have a strong sense of what matters to you to begin with.
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LooseyGoosey · 26-30, F
Pisses me off more that the reason there are many asylum seekers from ‘dangerous’ places to begin with is because rich countries went into the poor ones, colonised them, took their resources, bombed their infrastructure and killed their people. No wonder people want to leave.

If a country bombed my country and I had nowhere to go, it became dangerous, no economy or future, you can bet I’d be on the first boat out. Especially if I had kids.
SW-User
@SatanBurger yeah at least I've been part of the world I've saw it you live chronically online and can't afford a few dollar increase across the board. I genuinely would like to hear why your opinion matters outside of your inflated self importance. My family has probably been providing for yours for the last 60 years why do you get a say in government spending or foreign affairs? Have you ever even been to a foreign country. If so did you look up from your screen and meet locals
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SW-User I don't brag about the places I've been in the context of needing to prove a point in which you were already disproven anyways. Your claim was that those countries are the worse in the world because they were not colonized. Nothing more and nothing less yet you keep moving goal posts up.

You got the economics of said countries wrong and misunderstood several things which you were called out on and refuse to counter individually. It's not that deep why you are avoiding it as your one week in a country or even a month doesn't mean you're seasoned or cultured.
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XxBlahxX · F
It's not about hating anyone . It about having illegal aliens come into a country that's already got enough of its own problems and violence to deal with more from ppl who we really don't know nothing about.

I think ppl who don't reside near borders don't understand the struggles of the residents and land owners of those areas. If anything the simple minded ones are the ones who lable any type of dialogue or differing opinion on this topic as racism because the reality is ,is that this issue is a lot more complex then that .
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@XxBlahxX Most immigrants aren't undocumented. Trump removed a lot of programs leaving ppl in legal limbo. As for the amount of undocumented immigrants, that could easily be fixed by fixing our immigration system which makes it up to a 10 year wait to even be seen in citizenship. Some of our laws haven't been updated in nearly 12 years or whatever.

There's a whole laundry list of issues and most of it is self inflicted by racists.
XxBlahxX · F
@SatanBurger you missed the whole point of what I was saying but whatever 🙄🙄 I don't care lol I'm not fainting my mind or arguing with you. Think what you want to think 😘
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@XxBlahxX I've been fairly decent with you, I think you feel like you lost the argument so I'll let you bow out. Have a good day
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@CurrentName Dumb and racist
BohoBabe · M
When it comes to the Right, they're just using crime as a smokescreen for their racism. The Right is pro-crime, that's why they like Trump.

But with normies, I think they honestly believe the majority of crime is committed by immigrants because of the media. Even "centrist" media like CNN basically implies that most immigrants are violent criminals. They also imply that crime gets worse and worse every year, when really crime has been on a steady decline since the eighties. The one time it spiked since then was the first time Trump was president.
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@BohoBabe @SatanBurger you two need each other you absolutely dependant on the internet enjoy your insanity I'm going to enjoy Matsusaka and some wonderful cheddar and broccoli soup. You're so beneath my world the world that matters the world that carries yours
BohoBabe · M
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SW-User Oh honey what's the matter? You were so loud but got real quiet once I mentioned:

Don't know who you are referring to but no other presidents have been given full immunity and did things like endorse Ken Paxton, Texas attorney general, who literally gave his waco friend a free pass on child sexxual assault.

Bet 🤫
Munumbis · 46-50, M
Except it's not one it's constantly and the most horrific crimes you could imagine.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Munumbis This is wrong, all known data says Americans commit crimes 2x higher than immigrants, even violent crimes.

1. The Broad National Data (The 150-Year Trend)

A massive, landmark study led by economists at Stanford, Northwestern, and Princeton analyzed 150 years of U.S. Census and incarceration data. They found that since 1870, immigrants have never been incarcerated at a greater rate than those born in the United States.

The gap has actually widened in recent decades.

Today, immigrants are 60% less likely to be incarcerated than native-born U.S. citizens.

2. What the Specific Crime Data Shows

A frequent counter-argument is that "undocumented" immigrants must be driving up violent crime. To test this, researchers looked at Texas the only state that specifically tracks the legal status of individuals at the time of their arrest.
Migration Policy Institute

A comprehensive study published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (PNAS) and backed by the National Institute of Justice analyzed years of Texas data.

It revealed that undocumented immigrants have the lowest crime rates of all groups across a range of serious felony offenses:

-violent crime and drug crime were 2x more in American citizens
-property crime is 4x higher.
Munumbis · 46-50, M
@SatanBurger If you count Chicago and other demographically similar places it could be.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@Munumbis 1. The Historical "Chicago School" Finding

Criminologists have been studying Chicago specifically for over a century. The famous "Chicago School" of sociology began tracking this in the early 1900s. They discovered a phenomenon called the immigrant paradox: as neighborhoods in Chicago received higher concentrations of newly arrived immigrants, the local crime rates actually dropped or stayed lower than neighboring areas with fewer immigrants. Modern data continues to back this up.

2. High-Immigrant Neighborhoods in Chicago are Safer

If immigrants committed more crimes, then Chicago's predominantly immigrant neighborhoods would logically be the most dangerous parts of the city.

In reality, Chicago neighborhoods with the highest percentages of immigrants have significantly lower violent crime rates than neighborhoods struggling with systemic, generational poverty that are populated almost entirely by native-born U.S. citizens.

3. What ICE Data in Chicago Reveals

When federal immigration authorities run sweeps or track individuals in the Chicago area, the vast majority of immigrants they interact with have no criminal history whatsoever.

Hard data from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) processing in the region shows that only a tiny fraction of the undocumented population has ever been convicted of a serious, violent offense. The vast majority are entirely law-abiding.
Bang5luts · M
What's really disturbing is how people hate immigrants for taking their jobs and once the immigrants have been removed those people are still not doing those jobs and now neither are the immigrants
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Change is inherent in everyone. Yet often the direction of change has influences based on previous experiences.

It's not so much the current basis. Rather the cumulative affect of the previous experiences.
Crazywaterspring · 61-69, M
Some people love consuming whatever outrageous tales they're fed. It feeds whatever narrative makes them feel comfortable.
It gives them a false sense of control to have someone as a scapegoat
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@HijabaDabbaDoo I've kept track of things like personality traits that are common in maga. The need for control is a big one that is present in all of maga no matter the individual
SW-User
While NYC gives the mayor credit for crime being down over the last year they fail to mention crime is down nationwide around the country. Almost as if ICE is reducing crime.
SatanBurger · 36-40, F
@SW-User Actually crime was down way before so that doesn't make sense
Simple people gravitate to simple scapegoat answers. Hating someone and blaming them for your problems is the simplistic, low effort approach that requires zero thinking or intellect.
lucasll · 18-21, M
I think it’s an easy scapegoat for the issues with crime. Much easier to say keep immigrants out and crime will go down compared to trying to enforce the law on citizens born here.
Ferise1 · 46-50, M
No western person decapitates people on the street
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SatanBurger · 36-40, F
Ferise1 · 46-50, M
@PicturesOfABetterTomorrow you mean in the middle ages?😂😂😂

 
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