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"Knew this man who stopped by once just falling apart"

"With pain in his voice, explained he had a gun in his car.
Said he ain't going back to prison like he was ready for war.
Said it didn't matter since he didn't wanna live anymore".

I wrote that in a song back in 2016. It was about this guy I'd met. He was from a gang thats supposed to be my enemy. Well, they ARE an enemy. But sometimes peace is made & theres an understanding between certain people for some reason.

We became cool because on a night when I had nowhere to go, nobody to turn to, I called my mom who I hadn't spoken to in years. She showed up even though she didn't have a car. He was the man driving. He was my moms husbands brother. So basically, my non-blood uncle, kinda 🤷

He seemed like a regular hard working landscaper when I met him, but when he took his shirt off one day & I saw him covered in tattoos I knew what he was. You couldn't see his tattoos if he had a t shirt on.
The tattoos he had signified extremely dangerous things he'd done in prison. Tattoos that only high ranking people are allowed to have. So I asked him about himself because I was curious who he was exactly.

He told me his whole life story basically. About how when he was 18 he got arrested for murder & served 10 years. He got out, stayed out for only a year, then went back in for murder again. 16 more years. It was all gang related of course & had to do with revenge for previous murders & whatnot. That sad cycle in the gang life. You kill someone, then their homies start killing your people. & It's just revenge back & forth forever. Theres never an end to it.

I don't condone that shit so don't lecture me, but I became close with the dude. He'd come over often & he'd always bring beer & we'd drink together & just bullshit. We both knew we were supposed to be enemies but since we were somewhat family & he watched me cry my eyes out the first night I met him, there was a vulnerability between us where we could be honest & cool.

I watched as he struggled to get his head back into normal society. He worked hard every day. One thing that he vented to me that hurt him more than anything was talking about his kids (who were adults now). He talked about how they hated him & wanted nothing to do with him. But he understood because he was in prison their entire lives so he didn't expect them to respect him. But he reached out all the time & would help them in any way they let him. Spent time when they allowed him to.

Eventually I could tell he started spiraling & it happened so fast. One night he came over & he started talking about how he had just robbed a gas station nearby & he didn't know what to do or where to go. The helicopters were literally circling right above our neighborhood at that moment but we acted casual & just talked. He started saying how he has a 9mm in his glovebox & he wasn't gonna go back to prison. He said he'll die before he goes back & that he was fine with that because he didn't wanna live anymore.

As soons as that sentence came out of his mouth he burst into tears.

He was obviously losing it & he started talking about his kids again. He said he doesn't deserve them. That he could never be someone they respect & he could never earn their trust back so why would he care about anything else when he can't have his kids.
He told me that we (me, my mom, & my moms husband), were the only people in his life that open our doors for him & treat him like a person so he loves us for that. He thanked me for always talking to him & not treating him like anybody else would.

Then he began to talk about anger. He knew I was an angry person inside & he knew a lot about my story as well. He told me to let my anger go. He said that when you let your anger take over your life it ruins you. You black out & you don't remember things (which struck me deeply because I would often black out when I snapped on people back then).
He was basically warning me that if I keep holding on to my anger the way I was then I could end up in his shoes too. He saw too much love in me to be that way.

It was a long, difficult conversation & by the end, his brother came out & hugged him while they both cried in each others arms.
I held it together for the sake of the conversation but at that moment is when I walked away. I went to be alone & I started crying my eyes out thinking about everything he had said. Especially about the anger. I WAS angry & I was being very reckless with my life. Fighting people regularly, my fists were practically swollen all the time from fighting & it's ironic because I was still one of the friendliest people you could meet. I respected everyone... but I took no shit. If someone brought beef to my table I had no problem handling it. It's almost like I enjoyed when somebody gave me a reason.

That very night, I quit being angry at my father. Not for his sake but for mine. Because I realized that's where all my anger came from & I didn't want to carry that anymore. It still took me another few years before I talked to him again but after that night I was no longer mad at him. I just wanted to understand & I wasn't ready to yet.

A few nights later it was Christmas Eve.
That night, a cop was murdered at the casino. We got a call & we were told to turn on the news. They were blasting pictures of my uncle everywhere saying he killed the officer. The story was that he was breaking into a car & when a retired officer tried to intervene he ended up shot & killed. Suspect was still on the run.

I woke up Christmas morning to him showing up at the door. He left his shoes, car keys, & cigarettes with me because I told him I'll get rid of it all & he needs to leave fast. He hugged me then left. That was the last time I ever saw him.

For 2 weeks he was on the run & FBI was literally camped outside my house + every block in my neighborhood. Talking to all my neighbors. Showing up to my door trying to question me. Basically harassing me & blatantly stalking me as if they were trying to scare me but I wasn't bothered. I just carried on like usual & would offer them pie, tea, cake, just to be casual.

When they eventually caught him, his own cousins set him up. Right after one of his own brothers tried to kidnap him too.
The cops hit him with a car & beat the shit out of him before they arrested him. His mugshot was so bad it didn't even look like him. His face was swollen & huge, his eyes didn't look right. The cops broke 4 of his ribs, his jaw, his collarbone, & multiple places in his arms. When you kill a cop, they really take revenge on you purposely.

Craziest thing of it all, is I strongly believe he didn't kill that cop... it was his daughters husband. Because I saw the surveillance pictures & I saw the man who was stealing the car. I knew who it was. But I think he took the heat for it because he knew he was gonna go back anyway & he wanted to earn his daughters respect somehow. They were all at the casino together that night & he drove his own car to bring them all there. So I see no reason why he would need to steal a car. None of it added up. It still doesn't. But it ended how it ended. He's serving life in prison now.

Anyway, sorry for the long story. I know only some of you read all of this rambling so I appreciate it 🙏 I just wanted to share that because I started to get a little angry again lately & I had to remind myself of some things. Like this story, for example.

I'll even include a picture he sent me about two years ago. Not directly to me but I talked to his mom & had her talk to him for me to tell him how much he impacted me.
He said he loves me & he gave his mom a picture of himself in prison, to give to me. & Also a prayer card that I keep in my wallet every day even though I'm not Catholic.

He's the guy in the middle here
CestManan · 46-50, F
I have been meaning to ask since you would know best on this forum -
Some guys that have been in prison or even county will come out and think they are the toughest guys around OR seem really proud that they were there.

One of my nephews was in county for a few weeks for selling to an undercover. This was about ten years ago and he was trying to act all OG and whatever when he got out.

The funny thing was that he was on house arrest for his "sentence" and was acting like a little b*tch about even that. Gyod if I ever were to face prison but only got house arrest, I would kiss the judge's bare ass to say "thanks".

So why do some guys (like my nephew) wear it as a badge of honor if they were locked up? I am not saying your uncle did that, but just some guys.
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@CestManan well I'm still waiting to face court for the felonies I have pending so idk how it'll turn out but I know its not the end of the road for me. I can move past it without it taking over my life. I'm still early on enough I think.

But yeah, I hope so 😌
CestManan · 46-50, F
@ChiefJustWalks Though I am no attorney but I do not imagine things will turn out as bad as you are imagining with the legal issues.

I suppose one option would be to maybe ask on legal forums what kind of options you might have. Of course do not offer too much personal info. Be ready though in case some responses are real horse sh*t about things.

Seems to me that the people who get hit the hardest are ones who commit some kind of crime against the state. Like tax evasion or whatever.
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@CestManan yeah I wrote a post days ago about my current charges & whatnot. I'm hoping I could get off easy but shit, with 3 different felonies in 3 different categories, idk how it'll turn out till I have my lawyer & we're in the process. Just keeping my head up & fingers crossed til then 🤞
robb65 · 56-60, M
I'll skip the finer details but a long time ago a guy I worked with needed a ride home because the guy he normally rode with had to leave early. It was 30 something miles in the wrong direction for me but I offered anyway because I hated the idea the he would have to take off early due to someone elses problem.
Taking him home meant driving past a prison and as we are passing he tells me how he occasionally stopped by to throw a pack of cigarettes over the fence because "you never know when you might end up in there and need a friend". I've thought about that a few times over the years. At the time that was about the most fucked up thing I'd ever heard. In my world people didn't just end up in prison. In his world it must have been normal and I don't doubt at all that he had neighbors and possibly family there.
It wasn't long before he got fired over something stupid and I really don't know what became of him. I saw him once or twice without a shirt and you couldn't put your hand on his back without touching a scar from where he had been cut, he was just in his early 20's with a wife and kid. I hope he made it.
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@robb65 he sounds like a good, solid dude. & It's hella nice that he did that. A pack of cigarettes in there is big money compared to out here. Mf's an make a LOT of trades, sales, & shit off of a simple pack. It's so different in there. I really hope that dude turned out okay too 🙏
Dainbramadge · 56-60, M
That's a pretty intense story brother.
I will keep this short. Break character for a minute. LOL
You know that s*** that people tell you about people coming into your life for a reason. It only has a reason if you let it impact you. Other than that it's just some person you bumped into.
We all have a story and if people would actually take the time to listen they would realize that there are lessons to be learned in those stories.
Thanks for sharing this.
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@Dainbramadge yeah.. it sucks to see his story end sadly.. but he did teach me something & I'm thankful for that. Even if he's not the best person
Rhode57 · 56-60, M
Thats super cool sounds like a great guy whos life just spiralled out of control very sad story but thankyou for posting it . It shows there are always others worse off than ourselves and to live each day as it comes .
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@Rhode57 despite his flaws & his life.. he actually was a good guy. At least at heart. He just had a lot of demons that he couldn't escape
Foreverconfused · 56-60, F
The people who matter in his life know the truth. And believe in him. I’m so glad that his mom still visits. That’s very kind. Not all mothers would do that for their sons. Sometimes prisoners are too proud to take visitors. I’m not sure if they get made fun of or get used etc.

Thanks for sharing your story.
It’s a strange world.
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@Foreverconfused yeah his mom loves him very much still. & It touched her that I cared too so she was excited to talk to him for me.
I think in most cases when a prisoner doesn't want visitors though its not about pride. At least not in the way that you'd think. Its usually the opposite. I know many people who refused visitors because they didn't want their loved ones to see them like that.
It often hurts them too much to have visitors.
Foreverconfused · 56-60, F
@ChiefJustWalks I’m glad to hear that hello between him and his mom are positive. I had a friend who said he was framed. Guilty, but framed. He didn’t want his family to see him while he was in prison. Thru letters, I convinced him to let his family into his life. He finally did. Later he thanked me. I’m glad it wasn’t going to “hurt” him thru other prisoners… that’s all I worried about. I hear from him once every ten or 15 years? Lol… some tiny hello… they a family member… so weird
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@Foreverconfused that cool you were able to help him that way. It can be hard to maintain connection with somebody who is locked up though
Starcrossed · 41-45, F
Your perseverance after all the shit you've lived through is always so inspiring Chief. And a little heartbreaking. Thank you for your vulnerability in sharing this. 😊
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@Starcrossed thanks 🤗 I like telling my stories here because it gives me a chance to reflect & put it into words. I probably write for myself more than for anybody else. But I appreciate that people pay attention sometimes & actually feel things along with me 🖤
Classified · M
For an outsider it's difficult to tell whether he shot his son in law or not.
Do you think his trial was fixed?
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@Classified nah a retired police officer was killed. Not the son in law. The son in law is just the person in the surveillance cameras they showed. Which is why I think thats the case. But I really dont know its just a feeling.
& I don't know anything about his trial except that they wanted to give him death & instead settled on life
Classified · M
@ChiefJustWalks Oh, you meant the son in law was the murderer. Sorry, I didn't understand at first.
SW-User
Aaawww man, I think you need to live on a better side of town, it's cool you're so nice to this guy, and you have respect and a connection but, jeez, it's like, living close to these gangs or whatever, it's not cool

I'd want better for my children and I want better for you my friend
SW-User
@ChiefJustWalks haha, really, I'm from and live in Dublin but I don't sound like Conor McGregor 🤣🤣 his accent blows
ChiefJustWalks · 26-30
@SW-User I'm not sure what Dublin is surprisingly 😮 damn... How dare I. I must go educate myself now 😅
SW-User
@ChiefJustWalks it's the capital city of ireland we are a very small country

 
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