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Y’all, I don’t know anymore

Do electrons orbit the nucleus or is there some type of electronic cloud that surrounds the nucleus?
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My book says one thing but I was taught a different thing in high school
@TurtlePink Books change each semester.

I only have an Associate degree, but I know all about books changing to make money for the book industry and the schools.

They'll tell you whatever you read in the book, but you probably already knew that? lol
MethDozer · M
@TurtlePink That's kind of the nature of physics. No models are correct or certain and for the most part incorrect models are used to explain a certain concept to get an understanding to get to the next phase. It's sorta like you need to understand the inaccurate model before you can fully grasp the next more accurate model. You use the model that worked to get a grasp of an accepted truth and then from there learn why that model ceases to work in the next stage of knowledge.
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@MethDozer So everything that we could possibly know about science will probably become inaccurate sometime in the future?
@TurtlePink In the eyes of Christians everything in science already is inaccurate lol
MethDozer · M
@TurtlePink Most likely. That's the nature of science. We are only able to find a model that works for the problem we are trying to solve and it is most likely going to proven incomplete or wrong when we get to the next problem or question and so we adapt or change it to incorporate. There is always a new variable to be discovered.
MethDozer · M
@TurtlePink It's not uncommon for a theory to be unworkable based on a new discovery but later reaccepted again when yet another variable is discovered either. Which is another reason it is worth knowing and keeping old models that have lost favor and acceptance.
Jenny1234 · 56-60, F
@TurtlePink I think they orbit around the nucleus
MethDozer · M
@Jenny1234 No, not in reality. The orbit model assumed they were behaving as if gravity was the force holding them in their respective ring. However it isn't at all. Charge is the binding force. As demo strated by Bohr. They move around the nucleus as different states of quantum charge shift. They are constantly seeking areas around the electron ring that are of an opposite charge. Wherever in the respective ring that may be. That's why they constantly popping I'm amd out of place at seemingly random.