Is a good deed still a good deed if you only did it for internet likes etc ?

@Dainbramadge very interessting view, i like it

@Dainbramadge It's all in the intent...

Multimillionaire donates a million dollars to charity. They name a hall or put up a statue in his honor giving him notoriety for decades to come.

Yet that million dollars was only ⅛ of one percent of his total wealth.

While the average church goer gives 10% of their weekly income every Sunday.

@DeWayfarer But the million still helped someone out that didn't have the means to do it without help. Therefor it was still a good deed. It doesn't matter how much he gave.
There isn't a formula for the level of good a good deed can reach or fail to reach.

A good deed simply is something that helps others.

So are you saying that the church goer is a better person because they give 10%???
Are you saying that the church goers intentions are more or less noble??
Let's face it we do good deeds for the selfish reason because it makes us feel good.

@Dainbramadge ah yet because it's over decades who benefited the most? And at such little cost.

@DeWayfarer So you are saying there are benchmarks for good deeds?
They have to meet requirements???

@Dainbramadge I am saying exactly what I stated above! Intent is everything!

@DeWayfarer And I am saying exactly what I have been all along that it isn't.

@Dainbramadge I don't expect people to see it. Most especially any that expect something in return!

Those kinds are self absorbed.

@DeWayfarer That's what I'm saying. But the return most people get is that nice warm feeling in there tummy that they made a difference to someone. Selfish.

@Dainbramadge no you are not seeing it. Being selfish is not a good thing. And any that do so are not "doing a good deed". Their intent is contrary to the deed.

I once gave a homeless guy a pair of shoes, not to please myself. Rather I saw the need that I could provide.

Nothing was expected in return. Nor did I see him again.

@DeWayfarer But yet the deed still helps so what does the intent matter to the person who received the help?
When you get help do you care why?
Are you going to refuse help that you NEED because someone is going to feel good about it??

@Dainbramadge I have! Mostly because I have seen what is behind the intent!

@DeWayfarer Your saying that you have turned down much needed assistance on the sole purpose that you weren't going to allow yourself to make someone feel good about their selves????

@Dainbramadge EXACTLY! I have been homeless five times!

@DeWayfarer Well maybe that explains why then. Haven't you ever heard " Don't look a gift horse in the mouth "????
God helps them who help them selves.

@Dainbramadge now look at the intent of that same phase! ..."helps themselves". Doesn't mean accepting help from others! It means for "you" to get "yourself" out of it!

Another quote since you are bring those up ...

[quote]If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day—if you teach him to fish, you feed him for many days[/quote]

Intent is everything!

@DeWayfarer I beg to differ.
Feed the man. Does the man care why you fed him or is he grateful for the food in his belly.
Do you teach a hungry man or do you feed him then teach him? When you teach the man to fish don't you get that warm fuzzy feeling that you just helped someone to help their self??
If you don't except the charity you are not helping yourself with what is allotted you.
If you focus strictly on the intent of others you are suffering from pride. I'm talking the Biblical type pride that only goes against your best interests.
Your best interests are to take care of yourself even if taking care of yourself is by excepting charity.

@Dainbramadge I know and why I brought up a "CHINESE" proverb! I see your intent!

@DeWayfarer Enlighten me. What is my intent?

@Dainbramadge point of views. Conversion from one to another. I'm not really trying to convince you. Yet you are trying to convince me!...

[quote] I don't expect people to see it. Most especially any that expect something in return! [/quote]

@DeWayfarer I am just reacting to you. I am trying to show that no good deed ever done in the history of man was done benevolently.
Warm fuzzy feelings are selfish.

@Dainbramadge and I have to disagree![quote]I once gave a homeless guy a pair of shoes, not to please myself. Rather I saw the need that I could provide.

Nothing was expected in return. Nor did I see him again.[/quote]

I might add to this, that this guy no one would approach. Those that seek that "feel good" feeling wouldn't, and didn't, dare to!

His need out weighed any feel good feeling at that any would give! I actually felt guilty that I couldn't help more!

@DeWayfarer All do respect, and I mean that because I don't intend to insult you in any way, but I think you may be in denial of your own intent.
Are you saying, the part about not being able to help more aside, that you didn't feel good giving someone a hand when no one else would??

@Dainbramadge those that seek the feel good feeling will not approach such people much less do anything!

The streets of LA only show that! As well as San Antonio, New York and Chicago. I have been to all of those cities. It's no different. Heck I was homeless in some of those cities myself! So was one of own nephews.

Only when push comes to shove. Then they absolutely must. Even then they will fight it and push their own points of view rather than come up with a real solution.

Don't give a fish... teach them to fish! Their feel good charity will do no good! And only prolong the problems such charity encourages in the long run while encouraging even more of the exact same feel good intents. It's a self feeding cycle. Break the cycle, teach them to fish.

@DeWayfarer Well we seem to have reached an impasse.
I will bid you ado.