Do you have respect for the police in the US?

@Jackaloftheazuresand what was the guy's name? I'm sure you could a pic of him afterwards

@JovialPlutonian Frankie Taylor I believe

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@Jackaloftheazuresand I know it doesn't necessarily show it as one would actually like to see but it's the principle that matters. if officer are allowed to get away with it then they'll continue to do it.

@JovialPlutonian according to the official at the department they were controlling strikes. The only reason he went blind was because it knocked loose something he got for his already present glaucoma. Now I don't know police protocol but if they are given the authority to hit someone in such a manner for resisting because it subdues them then you can't be upset at them for using it. I certainly don't know what they are trained to do but if this is it then the beef is with police protocol and not personnel.

@Jackaloftheazuresand lol basically the officers can't think for themselves. If it takes four police to restrain one man by beating him then they're not very effective in the first place. You can restrain a man easily with one person. Four cops can easily without force strap a man to a chair. He was already in the chair when they put on the gloves and start beating him, I'm not taking that rubbish.

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Here's how many cops the UK used to stopped a man with a machete, loss prevention dictates that if you don't want to sustain any harm then you'd use the backup you've got. And when you have cops getting injured in scuffles, who covers that? The department, so they tell you to be safe.

I see you mentioned the gloves to someone else as if it was a bad thing. How much do you know about police operations in actuality?

@Jackaloftheazuresand onvio I'm not not a police officer just going by how they portray themselves. Yeh a man with s machete is a bit different from a drunk that's unarmed.

@Jackaloftheazuresand I think they could of just tazered him but he would of been shot dead in the US. No casualties, job done!

@JovialPlutonian which is why they had a lot more officers, 5 on one guy is not excessive when you consider that we've got four limbs. So you've got five people there, two seem to be really helping on the left the big guy in the middle just pretending to be useful but not restraining and the guy in the corner which may be holding the other arm. And then we have the officer delivering the hits which submit Taylor to stop fighting. One extra guy is all I would concede.

The thing of this all is you are too quick to jump on police, not long ago you posted a video that was either slanted or uninformed in that they said the cop had his gun out just to kill because he could even though after the confrontation they brought out a gun that was in the car of the supposed victim who said "what gun?" and you said police are a hazard with this video as evidence. I don't think you should be making any sort of judgements on police duty after being misled once before on these matters.

@Jackaloftheazuresand but that's just your opinion, no gun was pulled on the cop and ppl have a right in the US to own a gun. Again 5 cops on one drunk guy is excessive he is no threat to them. Maybe you should be less inclined to support the police when they knowingly get away with causing atrocities. Seems like you just don't like having your own country criticised but you fail to realise I'd happily criticise my own country. I'm not a nationalist and not that narrow minded. It's easy to restrain a drunk person on your own, have you seen drunk ppl try to fight? You are not prepared to accept they went way too far and unnecessarily so. I don't really don't understand why you'd want to support corruption in your country, it's ways it's allowed to continue. No British citizen would support police corruption in the U.K.

@JovialPlutonian They don't let you pull your gun, it saves your life to have yours drawn when one is present and you have someone who has been acting difficult.

You're right but wrong, I don't like my country being criticized but I'm here because I despise rabble rousers. I have provided proof of your bias for anti-police rhetoric, where's yours of mine?

It's not corruption when you do what has been deemed acceptable by the populous through legislation.

@Jackaloftheazuresand mate if that's deemed acceptable then that's just bs. Like I said 5 fully grown men that are trained to combat ppl against one drunk man is ridiculous. Even if they are authorised to do that doesn't mean they need to. You are merely defending them because you think them noble. You need to grow up mate, it's clearly unnecessary even if they have authority. If I have a license to kill doesn't mean I have the need to go round killing ppl. It's an abuse of power clearly. I doubt you'd wake up to what self evident but that's the bliss that comes with ignorance, it allows one to continue doing what they wish if they ignore that they're doing anything wrong. Anyway we're not getting anywhere unfortunately with this conversation so oh well 🤷🏻‍♂️

Neither was Phillip Brailsford deemed a corrupt police officer. In fact he was acquitted. But is it still right? Is it moral just cause you can operate within the law?

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I remember reading an account of a black man who became a police officer. I was surprise how patient he was with people. One incident he recounted I even thought not only was he justified of beating someone but the person really deserved it, but yet he merely struggled with this man and was able to restrain him without beating him down.

But I just bring him up to contrast him with these other police officers. Some hide behind their badges, their guns, their protocols, behind what is legal but morally questionable. Can the wicked find a loophole not only on our law but also our morality?

Versus a blackman who restrained himself even when he could have easily justified himself.

Let's not forget slavery was legal too in the past. Doesn't mean it was right. Something is legal doesn't mean it's right.

@IHateMyLife0MeDie I find it hard to believe that some think it is right.