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I find it odd how people jump to conclusions about the theory of evolution.

They often just see 2 sides. God or evolution. It could be a different theory to explain life. Personally there are way too many gaps about the theory of evolution. Even the scientific community is torn. Random is not systematic. We will probably never know. But as the molecular world is revealed like DNA, its complexity makes believing it is all random becomes hard to believe. [quote]In particular, concepts related to gradualism, speciation, natural selection, and extrapolating macroevolutionary trends from microevolutionary trends have been challenged. [/quote]

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ElwoodBlues · M

[quote] Random is not systematic.[/quote] You don't understand randomness in the physical world.

Random process polishes all sides of metal parts
[media=https://youtu.be/DGT20ghWMZA]

Random wave motion separates sand, gravel, and rocks (flowing rivers do this too)

Random process systematically separates bettors from their money

Random winds make dunes and ripples

If you look around, the world is full of random processes producing systematic results.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@ElwoodBlues look at a dictionary

ElwoodBlues · M

@Axeroberts Will a dictionary explain how random wind motions make both giant sand dunes and tiny ripples from the same material?

I didn't think so.

Will a dictionary explain how random roulette numbers will systematically move money from bettors to the casino bank?

I didn't think so. Wake up and look around.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@ElwoodBlues it gives a clear definition of random and systematic.

ElwoodBlues · M

@Axeroberts Who you gonna believe? A brief blurb in a dictionary or your lying eyes???

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@ElwoodBlues can you see the molecular world. Either could Darwin 😆

ElwoodBlues · M

@Axeroberts Piece of cake!!

Intro to single molecule microscopy

[b]https://www.photometrics.com/learn/single-molecule-microscopy/introduction-to-single-molecule-fluorescence-microscopy[/b]

Confocal Fluorescence-Lifetime Single-Molecule Localization Microscopy
[b]https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsnano.0c07322[/b]

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@ElwoodBlues Darwin could not do this. Maybe it's time to write a more accurate theory that can address this?

ElwoodBlues · M

@Axeroberts Be my guest!! [b]LOL!!![/b]

The only requirement is that your new "theory" make testable predictions that are better than those made by natural selection.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@ElwoodBlues there are many who realize it is not so simple a task. But people automatically jump to the God conclusion. That is preventing progress

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts Do I need advanced degrees in electrodynamics in order to drive my car?

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts With the Theory of Evolution by Natural Selection [i]both the top-down and bottom-up approaches[/i] are complementary.

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@newjaninev2 you will definitely need more than random chance to build the car

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts Umm, I'm not trying to build a car

Oh... are you referring to abiogenesis again?

Why? In any event, what does randomness have to do with abiogenesis?

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@newjaninev2 i already sent you a quote. It was debunked in the 17th century
[quote] While the hypothetical process of spontaneous generation was disproved as early as the 17th century and decisively rejected in the 19th century, abiogenesis has been neither proved nor disproved.[/quote]

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts Umm, your quote is about spontaneous generation specifically... we're talking about abiogenesis in general.

We know that abiogenesis occurred... the only exploration around abiogenesis is the pathway

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@newjaninev2 it addressed it last. Clearly

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts I don't understand that comment... could you clarify it for me?

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@newjaninev2 [quote] abiogenesis has been neither proved nor disproved. [/quote]

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts Yes, that's an ill-worded quote.

We know that abiogenesis occurred... or there would be no life on Earth.

The only exploration around abiogenesis is the [i]pathway[/i]

Axeroberts · 56-60, M

@newjaninev2 we can never be 100% sure

newjaninev2 · 56-60, F

@Axeroberts Well, that's characteristic of science, of course. Nothing is ever proven in science, and abiogenesis won't be any different.

As always, we can be guided by, and informed by, the evidence.