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Evolution: Inception, Deception and Corruption

Important: this is nothing more than my own personal anecdotal evaluation of evolution. It isn't from an informed or even particularly interested perspective. It isn't meant to be a technical oriented debate for which I am admittedly unprepared to engage in. You can't ask for anything more from me. It is what it is.

[b][c=A69800]I'M MAKING NO CLAIMS[/c][/b]

I offer only my uninformed opinion based upon personal experience and what little knowledge I've been presented with over time. For my own possible instruction through any correction in response. I'm pretty confident that no one here will agree with my conclusions.

Evolution is an ancient philosophy. Evolutionists are often surprised upon learning of Empedocles, Anaximander, Anaxagoras, and Aristotle's primitive contributions. @newjaninev2 has mentioned, and I agree, that Darwin didn't "invent" evolution and there was something going on between the ancients and Darwin. What that is, I don't know, perhaps newjan can inform us.

From the ancient philosophical perspective I see evolution in its primitive rudimentary form, well, as purely philosophical. Epistemological.

Definitions are . . . .

Philosophy: the study of general and fundamental questions, such as those about existence, reason, knowledge, values, mind, and language.

Epistemology: the theory of knowledge, especially with regard to its methods, validity, and scope. Epistemology is the investigation of what distinguishes justified belief from opinion.

What I think happened is that with the first industrial revolution the aristocracy began rightfully to question the oppressive and repressive paradigm of theocracy.

Aristocracy: the highest class in certain societies, especially those holding hereditary titles or offices.

Theocracy: a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.

Perhaps elite would be more accurate than aristocracy.

Elite: a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

In short, power shifted from the priest to the intelligentsia.

Intelligentsia: intellectuals or highly educated people as a group, especially when regarded as possessing culture and political influence.

Even that is problematic because the intelligentsia had been the theocracy until their influence began to wane. So it was a class struggle.

Class: the system of ordering a society in which people are divided into sets based on perceived social or economic status.

The objective was to diminish God.

The advent of steam powered machines, though not incorporated on land in the UK, had a global impact on this alleged struggle in two ways that I can see. The obvious resulting mass migration introducing and popularizing alternative and/or atheistic belief systems and more interesting, the availability of exotic animals touring internationally, especially in the puritanical US.

It was common to cover even piano legs with clothing to maintain pure intentions. A favorite among the aforementioned exotic animals was the chimpanzee, who was dressed in human attire for comical and puritanical reasons.

They look so human. Darwin believed that monkeys, apes and humans must have a common ancestor because of our great similarities compared to other species.

The objective, or motive, if you like, for the struggle having been established all that was needed was to fill in the gaps, no pun intended.
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DocSavage · M
Your objective is to diminish science it seems.
Why ? Are you hoping that by bringing up corporations and corruption on the part of the corporate, you can change the equations back in favor of god ? Is that what you consider to be the issue ? A competition as to which is true ? You lose in the end.
The corruption you speak of, doesn’t change the science itself. Nor does it add to the credibility of your god. Science however is true, for all such beliefs. You have to compete not only with science, but all other religions as well. A task, no living person can accomplish.
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newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@AkioTsukino [quote]discredits you before everyone[/quote]

Not everyone.

I think he has done a sterling job of bringing you out from your hiding places
Really · 80-89, M
@AkioTsukinoEvangelistic Trollmeister.
@newjaninev2 I have no hiding places. I'm all up front. Straight forward. No bullshit. Well, okay, I keed, I keed. I like bullshitting know it all atheists, but I'm up front about it. You get what you see. No pretense.
redredred · M
@newjaninev2 [DocSavage] I think the OP is off his meds. It seems he claims he’s discredited the bulk of life sciences in only six months. Impressive.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@redredred and yet the details seem strangely lacking...
@redredred Actually, Red, the OP, which I'm, isn't on meds, and he wasn't talking about life sciences in that particular instance. He was talking about religion. And like I said. It took about 6 months. It continues to this day and increases, but the basics were grasped in 6 months.
redredred · M
@AkioTsukino You just pile meaningless words on top of irrational conclusions making no sense and contradicting yourself constantly. I still want to know, was it a head injury or a neurological infection that you suffered?
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redredred · M
@AkioTsukino Ahhh, the race card. I knew you’d step into it eventually. Thank for essentially admitting you have no rational case to make. Apology accepted.