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Evolution: Inception, Deception and Corruption

Important: this is nothing more than my own personal anecdotal evaluation of evolution. It isn't from an informed or even particularly interested perspective. It isn't meant to be a technical oriented debate for which I am admittedly unprepared to engage in. You can't ask for anything more from me. It is what it is.

[b][c=A69800]I'M MAKING NO CLAIMS[/c][/b]

I offer only my uninformed opinion based upon personal experience and what little knowledge I've been presented with over time. For my own possible instruction through any correction in response. I'm pretty confident that no one here will agree with my conclusions.

Evolution is an ancient philosophy. Evolutionists are often surprised upon learning of Empedocles, Anaximander, Anaxagoras, and Aristotle's primitive contributions. @newjaninev2 has mentioned, and I agree, that Darwin didn't "invent" evolution and there was something going on between the ancients and Darwin. What that is, I don't know, perhaps newjan can inform us.

From the ancient philosophical perspective I see evolution in its primitive rudimentary form, well, as purely philosophical. Epistemological.

Definitions are . . . .

Philosophy: the study of general and fundamental questions, such as those about existence, reason, knowledge, values, mind, and language.

Epistemology: the theory of knowledge, especially with regard to its methods, validity, and scope. Epistemology is the investigation of what distinguishes justified belief from opinion.

What I think happened is that with the first industrial revolution the aristocracy began rightfully to question the oppressive and repressive paradigm of theocracy.

Aristocracy: the highest class in certain societies, especially those holding hereditary titles or offices.

Theocracy: a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.

Perhaps elite would be more accurate than aristocracy.

Elite: a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group or society.

In short, power shifted from the priest to the intelligentsia.

Intelligentsia: intellectuals or highly educated people as a group, especially when regarded as possessing culture and political influence.

Even that is problematic because the intelligentsia had been the theocracy until their influence began to wane. So it was a class struggle.

Class: the system of ordering a society in which people are divided into sets based on perceived social or economic status.

The objective was to diminish God.

The advent of steam powered machines, though not incorporated on land in the UK, had a global impact on this alleged struggle in two ways that I can see. The obvious resulting mass migration introducing and popularizing alternative and/or atheistic belief systems and more interesting, the availability of exotic animals touring internationally, especially in the puritanical US.

It was common to cover even piano legs with clothing to maintain pure intentions. A favorite among the aforementioned exotic animals was the chimpanzee, who was dressed in human attire for comical and puritanical reasons.

They look so human. Darwin believed that monkeys, apes and humans must have a common ancestor because of our great similarities compared to other species.

The objective, or motive, if you like, for the struggle having been established all that was needed was to fill in the gaps, no pun intended.
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Imsleepy · 31-35
[quote] I offer only my uninformed opinion[/quote] Hey, at least you were honest.
@Imsleepy Such honesty is always trumped by an us vs them mentality. Until the end and the children have to be put to bed.
DocSavage · M
@Imsleepy
No he isn’t. You should read the responses I’ve been getting. Everyone is either stupid, misinformed, or both. Except him , of course.
DocSavage · M
@AkioTsukino
Another point to bring up. I gave you a could of good reasons why the flood fable couldn’t happen. Mainly due to physics. The number of animals, the size and weight of the ark. The water canopy, and so on.
You have yet to address them with any credible biblical evidence.
Would you mind filling in the blanks ?
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DocSavage · M
@AkioTsukino
You’re hiding .
The claim you made was the flood happened .
We refuted it. We provided evidence to support evolution, you deny it, but haven’t refuted it. Give us something other than “the bible says so”
If you’re going to play, play fair .
DocSavage · M
@AkioTsukino
Then what is it that you are here to discuss. You admitted you lack of understanding evolution and physics. Despite being in “Evolution”
“You make no claims” . You make no sense either.
DocSavage · M
@AkioTsukino

Thank you for proving this
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@DocSavage [quote]You should read the responses I’ve been getting. Everyone is either stupid, misinformed, or both. Except him , of course.[/quote]

No. Including me. I've been pretty clear about that. Not that that would be necessary . . . TO ANY SENSIBLE PERSON!

[Laughs]
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@AkioTsukino [quote] I asked for and accepted it[/quote]

You made absolutely no reference to the evidence I gave you.

You got as far away from that evidence as possible.

You offered no conclusions from that evidence.

You failed to offer a better (or indeed any other) explanation for that evidence.

So... let’s do it again, and see how you go