Can't stand when the Americans diss our cars from those dumb trucks..

@MethDozer Here we go

@Elessar Im sorry I prefer useful, practical vehicles that are 6 inches off the ground and have no leg room and replace superior bench seats with bucket seat bullshit

@MethDozer Yeah nothing more practical than 3000kg of car that'll drink like $7000 of fuel per year

@Elessar Room to fit in, bed to haul in, tow our shit, bring ojr tools to work, 4 wheel for the snow.
Yes practical.

Oh snd dont forget easily self serviceable with aftermarket support. Low repair costs. Yoj get a six cylinders you can get 20-23mpg. Thats not bad


Modern cars are so tiny

@MethDozer I'd get a van if I had such a requirement. I could carry around bike and motorbike with one of those as well. But I wouldn't use it as my main driver

Quite the opposite actually, look how tiny cars were in the 70s compared to now. Even the smallest city car now is bulky

@MethDozer Hmm not really sure about that:

@Elessar weight isnt size and Toyota is a Japanese car. SUVs arent cars either and thise have gotten smaller as well amd have just turned into station wagon substitutes

@Elessar a proper and real SUV

@Elessar a proper car

@MethDozer Tonnage and volume tend to be coupled, it's not that more recent cars are being made with lead and old ones with aeronautical titanium. If anything materials are becoming lighter nor heavier.

I know about Toyota, but the one on the side is a Ford, just got saying the trend is similar for every brand. There's a certain number of Ford cars here as well and I'm seeing they're getting bulkier too

@Elessar even still, a midsized pickup or 1500 pickup is the best bang for buck in a vehicle if you plan on doing anything more than drive 3 miles to work in an office.