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ffony · M
Elessar is Italian

They talk about it because they know Europe will never be independent.

The former greatest empires on earth Britain and France can barely throw together 2 battalions and a single regiment respectively.

The Independent just published a piece saying the British army has about 25 actually operational tanks.


And yeah. That dependence was what NATO was created for. As far as the US was concerned they purchased Europe with the Marshall Plan.
@Elessar Europe likes to pretend they are still relevant geopolitically but that dependence is very much intentional now too. And if anything Ukraine has proven the militaries of Europe are paper tigers.
@LowBorn Sorry but you have exposed yourself as an armchair general thinking absolute numbers are relevant to combat deployments.

Cooks, drivers, and warehouse clerks are not going to be deployed into a combat role. And your absolute number of war fighters also doesn't matter because the deployment number will always been smaller because you need to have reserves to cycle in and out of tours of duty.

Nobody sends all of their infantry and leaves them there till the end of the war anymore. Besides most armies don't have the support units to maintain a deployment of any large size.
@Richard65 I never said the British only had 2 battalions what I said is for a sustained deployment the current state of the army could likely only deploy a couple of battalions at any given time. Lets take your 32 battalions at face value. There is an almost zero percent chance the UK currently has the support and logistics in place to deploy 32 battalions in Scotland let alone anywhere farther afield.

When was the last time the UK has trained for a deployment of a unit larger than a handful of battalions?
22Michelle · 61-69, T
Reality is that unless they went nuclear any "invasion" of Europe by Russia would see those forces decimated. The invasion of Ukraine has shown that Russian forces just aren't that scary. And that's with 14 years of right wing misrule.
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
The US abandoned Europe and is forming a de facto alliance with Russia. Europe better increase military spending, and fast. It will help their economies as well.
Richard65 · M
@Fukfacewillie I'm calling it the Russo-American Axis.
newjaninev2 · 56-60, F
@Richard65 von Ribbentrop-Molotov 2.0
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Elessar · 26-30, M
@jshm2 lmao he's just done the opposite

And fighting for your literal home isn't "useless"
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