People still think climate change is a hoax?

@hippyjoe1955 based on their predictions we should all burst into flames next year

@Patriot96 I'm old enough to talk to some old timers back in 1974. Times News Magazine had just published its edition declaring that we would soon be in an Ice Age. It was kind of fun listening to the old timers Pooh poohing the whole idea. One elderly gent could remember how warm it was in 1918, Another told me about how hot it was in 1934. In the mean time here in Canada the government erased any weather records older than the 1980s. Hmmmm Can't have any data that debunks the myth can we.

@hippyjoe1955 The Earth's hottest times were lot hotter than now, and there was a huge gap in time (> 300 million years) between the Carboniferous and the present Ice Age. (I think there was an Ice Age between them, but there were also major warm periods.)

Most of the limestone deposits were laid down in tropical to sub-tropical seas, the Chalk in times of warmer climates generally. You've also to consider continental drift: the shapes and arrangements of the continents and seas have changed over that time, and still are changing.

So for example the limestone in what is now the British Isles at more than 50º N, developed from shallow sea-floor sediment off a different continent in latitudes roughly that of the Bermudas now.


Those short-term chilly and hot periods you mention are merely small-scale, regional events - it is long-term trends around the world that count.

Why your government erased its records only it can say, but it won't make any difference because everyone else still has theirs, many going back well into the 19C so showing trends as well as temporary warm or cold peaks.

The problem now is while we might expect the climate to continue still warming as part of the Ice Age oscillation, so now very, very slowly and gently over millennia, human activities are forcing the rate and amplitude of change over centuries or even decades.

Of course, if the natural rate of change is really the end of the Ice Age then not only will humanity be unable to do anything about it, but its long term future (over millennia) would be grim.

Our ancestors lived through both a warm phase and the last glaciation but it was relatively easy for them. There were far few of them, they did not have extraordinarily complicated societies and systems, and they could fairly easily and gradually drift to more hospitable regions.

@ArishMell you still have not shown sufficient causation that we would destroy humanity to control the weather so we can save humanity.. The simple fact is you don't know what you don't know. We know climate changes naturally. Earth orbit, solar output, etc etc
What we don't know is the undesired effects of us trying to control what is not ours to control. What we do know is life is thriving now. The earth is greening. What is the problem? Great panic over nothing.

@hippyjoe1955 Never confuse weather with climate.

@22Michelle so about those frozen mammoths..... .....

@hippyjoe1955 Weather, massive and sudden drops in temperature are not an unknown phenomenon

@22Michelle and when they last for thousands of years?

@hippyjoe1955 If it's weather if lasts hours, maybe days. You have to know the difference.

@22Michelle so about those frozen mammoths???

@hippyjoe1955 well said