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People still think climate change is a hoax?

Alright, the world has existed for millions of years and humans have lived on it for millennia also. But the drastic changes happening in the natural world around us is alarming.

How do these deniers not see it?

What d'yall think? Is the whole climate change debate a bogeyman unleashed for I don't know what reasons.

Or is it something real that we all are responsible for?
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Patriot96 · 56-60, C
Please explain that Greenland was once ice free during 9th-10th centuries
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Patriot96 Entirely? The climate goes through long-term changes with smaller-scale, short-term fluctuations on that, but by natural behaviour.

What is happening now, as was warned possible a century ago, is human activity imposing artificial, and artificially-rapid, changes on any natural change.

Of course we could carry on regardless until we run our of coal, oil and natural-gas (and a lot of metal ores), gaze over the seas several metres higher than present, and ask ourselves, "Errr, now what do we do?"
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@ArishMell but the EXPERTS predicted an iceage back in 70s and 80s. PENTAGON actually had scenario of world famine do to cold
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Patriot96 They did, but not for long before realising that was incorrect and the overall, world-wide mean climate is actually warming faster than it should

Actually we are still in an Ice Age (still a lot of polar and high-altitude ice and relatively cool global climate), but natural climate changes are not linear nor even nice, neat, single-angle sine functions although they follow fairly mathematical progressions.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Patriot96 Greenland was not ice free during the 9th and 10th centuries. Parts of the coastline were warmer due to a short period of warming known as the Medieval Optimum from about 1000 to 1200 AD. Earth is much warmer than it was during this period and is warming more every year.

Do try facts sometime. If that is even possible.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@windinhishair then exlpain the settlements found under the glacier in the interior
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Patriot96 Please provide details on "the settlements found under the glacier in the interior". Where specifically are they located and what time period do they belong to? And which right-wing entertainment/hate source are you using?
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@Patriot96 So do you think we should rely on 1950's science and technology for anything else? That prediction was based on various cores expanding our knowledge of the earth's climate hac been. If revealed that we had a series of ice ages, and we were due another. That impending ice age was along the lines of forecasting the Yellowstone caldera erupting again. It will happen, but it could be in 100,000 years, though scientists now say there's probably not enough molten magma in the chamger. Then again, in 60 - 70 years (see what In did there) science may have advanced to give us a far more accurate analysis.
Patriot96 · 56-60, C
@22Michelle meybe you have noticed that all the Expert prediction and graphs begin 1n 1979 which was the coldest winter on record. They ignore the 1930 and previous warm periods
Their computer projects are based on calculus. If you studied math you would k ow that any slight variable error will totally alter the outcome.
windinhishair · 61-69, M
@Patriot96 Expert predictions do NOT begin in 1979. The coldest winter on record was not 1979. Many graphs show temperatures going back to the beginning of direct measurement in the mid- to late-1800s. Previous warm periods are not ignored.

I studied a year of calculus and a year of differential equations in college, plus computer modeling, statistics, environmental science, environmental engineering, and meteorology, and have used many predictive models for over 40 years. Your bogus claims are laughable in their ignorance. But they are also profoundly sad at the same time, since you clearly are clueless yet embrace your ignorance.
22Michelle · 61-69, T
@Patriot96 I'm noticing your argument s based on wilful self ignorance. And that your points have already been refuted by wind8nhishair, so I'll not bother. The bible is not the "word of god". It was written by men, and reflects how they understood the world. If the philosophy within helps yoh lead your life then good for you, but that's all it is, the philosophy of an ancient people.