More Evidence Suggests “Global Warming Ran Out of Steam” Years Ago

@twiigss What billion trees have been cut down for highway construction? Serious question. Never heard of this before.

@twiigss [quote]cut down a billion trees[/quote]

That's a lot of trees!

I agree that there is too much paving, not enough open, natural ground.
I don't know what effect that might have on weather, but for animals - it's devastating.

@Budwick a billion trees would require 2 million acres of land. That is a lot of land too.

@hippyjoe1955 when we lived in Maryland as kids, there were forests or at least you know, medium size areas with just nothing but trees. And I remember all these trees being cut down for 97, for more housing, and it's like if we didn't put that highway in, and just left the trees as they were, would we be having the strong and violent storms that we do now? Or if we replanted the trees that were removed, for highway and housing, would storms be as strong and violent as they are today?

Yes, that is just one small area, but I honestly think these little areas matter. Because if you take a lot of little areas and remove them all, it adds up.

@Budwick lol yeah it was just an example. I would imagine nation wide however, that it's more than a million.

@twiigss How big is 97? I have never been there so I have no idea. It must be a huge road or else there the forested areas were not that big to begin with. Where I have lived in the past you could walk for a hundred miles and see nothing but trees for the entire hike or not see a native tree the entire time.

@hippyjoe1955 Basically you have 695 on the outer loop, and you can catch 97 which is a more direct route to other parts of Maryland. So if you get on 97 from 695, you are heading south and 97 runs for about 22 miles and then changes over to 50. Stay on 50 and it takes you into Ocean City Maryland, after about 3 1/2 hours from PA.

But I definitely remember it just being trees and nothing else. Or hell, even when you went down Dorsey Road past BWI airport, the road just ended, because... trees. Then I remember a business park went in, where trees used to be. Then more trees were removed so that Dorsey Road could run all the way through and connect to another highway. Even where Aviation Blvd. is now, used to be trees. But all those trees were removed for Aviation Blvd.

I remember heading the other direction, into the neighborhood, if you went down my street toward where the elementary school is, about 4 blocks from my house was Baltimore St. You could go down so far, and then it was just trees. But those trees were removed for houses, and Baltimore St. now connects to 5th Avenue. But in the early 1980's, that other part of Baltimore St. never existed.

Even the road that was directly across from our house, Dogwood Ave., same thing. The road only went so far up the hill, and it was like right after you crest the hill, nothing but trees. Now, all those trees were torn out for..... housing.

Number one problem: None of these removed trees have been replaced. I feel like yes, it could be the catalyst for the crazy weather we been having the last 10 years.

@twiigss What basis do you have to attribute lack of trees to bad storms?

@hippyjoe1955 My only basis is in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s, I don't recall having the kinds of storms we are having in 2022.

@twiigss Son that is called weather. Some years are worse than others. This year is exceptionally cold across much of North America with new cold records being broken on a regular basis. What does that mean? Global warming is over because it is cold? Possibly the sun is going through one of its sunspot minimums that it does every once in a while. During the Maunder Minimum in the late 1600s led to a drastic cooling of the earth. Tell you a funny story. My ancestors came to the Dakotas in the 1880s. They homesteaded. To the south of their house was a wonderful hay field with natural grass growing tall and healthy. They made hay there the first year and kept their horse and cows fed. The next year the same and the year after that the same. The third year was a wonderful hay crop and they left their haying equipment by the haystack they made in anticipation of the next years crop. Next spring the hay field filled with water. The water didn't go away. There is still a little lake where they used to cut hay. They never recovered their haying tools either. What caused the little lake to dry up then refill? Obviously the weather pattern changed. Maybe it will change back again in the future but for now there is water where the ancestors cut hay.

@hippyjoe1955 to me, the weather seemed more... stable 20 -30 years ago versus today. At least where I've lived, how weather events have come through.

For example it rained here for an entire month. I'm not talking we got rain on Monday and it stopped and started again, it rained non-stop, everyday and all day for a whole month straight. Roads were under water and people had to adjust the roads they took to travel.

I just don't remember something like that happening in 1990, or 1980 etc. Places by where I live have been getting tornadoes. We never used to get tornadoes here.

@twiigss When I was a kid one year seemed like a decade and I remember the exceptions. 1969 it got to 40 below every night for 6 weeks straight. That somehow sticks in my mind and tells me that the winters were so much colder when I was a kid. They weren't. I remember the summer of 1970. It was long and hot. Thus it stands out in my mind that the winters were cold and the summers were hot. Of course that is just my memory playing tricks on me. When i look at the actual weather record yes summers were warmer than winters but no two years were ever the same.