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I Admire Wit and Intelligence

Ingredients Of Conversation... Lately, I've noticed I haven't had an in-depth conversation for ages. When, I attempt to, it leaves the other person either confused or uninterested. I mean, I'm not talking about documentaries and fossilized topics here. How about the roots of mankind's mindset, what we want to change in the world, poetry, surrealistic art, and of course, some comedy.

Gah, I'm nearly giving up on people. I'm not this Einstein myself. But I just want a little flavour and some deviating subjects to talk about. Anyone else?
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tsiugnilinnuc
The art of conversation is diminished by digitalized communication. So much more than typed letters is involved in good conversation; body language, voice modulations, facial expression, and eye to eye contact, all are part of the communicative effect of conversation. How can one do that in a medium like EP?
SleepingSupernova · 22-25, F
True. But the basics to a good conversation is dialogue... And that's what I'm searching for. It can be accomplished even by this handicapping medium, no...
tsiugnilinnuc
It's apparent that the verbal stating of ideas, contradictions, compromises and conclusions can be exchanged and/or posited. Inference and implication can be achieved in digitalized exchange. However, that is only the matrix of good conversation which involves two or more sentient beings exposing themselves linguistically AND socially to each other.
For instance, I can say that you are a bipedal female member of the species Humanoid subspecies homo sapiens, but if you are transgendered, an effective cross-dresser,expert at disguise of any sort I may be conclusively in error and that part of my conversation with you will be erroneous...if I confront you physically (non-violently), I will be much more likely to discover your true being and our conversation will probably be more honest and more satisfactory.
SleepingSupernova · 22-25, F
Honest and more satisfactory. I can agree with that statement entirely. But let men say this... Without physical confrontation, conversation is still possible, probably less enthusing than one with visual attributions, but still possible.

Just exchanging thoughts can be interesting to me. Tell me your dreams, your motivations, your goals. I'm not asking what car you drive, where you live, and all that, but what personally creates that individual.

And I guess online conversation can be tricky, depending on whether or not this person is able to be themselves. But I'm hoping that the people I attract can openly tell me about them. This is the flaw to online stuff, I suppose. The risk.
tsiugnilinnuc
Your clarification makes your position more understandable. What I infer from that clarification is that such online conversation is rather more an exchange of stories which could include subjective thoughts . If one accepts that as a valid type of conversation then I would think this site would be very good as a medium of exchange for story-telling is it's Raison d'etre. And, I believe you are right in stating that the risk is in exchanges with frauds and/or liars. That is my point about real conversation exactly
SleepingSupernova · 22-25, F
The thing is, I can just almost tell when someone is sounding a bit iffy. Can't you? Which is why I give out as little information as possible until they've gained some measure of trust. A selfish thing... But my safety is important.
tsiugnilinnuc
I think that is wise, however my experience informs me that we are subject to flim-flams of every sort and many of them are very successful. Getting the wool pulled over our eyes, so to speak, seems to be a penchant for we humans...do you suppose there is a gentic code which dictates we shall forever be gullible to certain extent?
SleepingSupernova · 22-25, F
Haha... More self-taught. Seeing we're all still children with a flame of hope that there is only good in people, we allow ourselves to be tricked at times.
tsiugnilinnuc
Touche' - We are in agreement on that. It's my constant in life, that hope which seeks good in everyone and everything. Certainly that must be a predisposition unalterable and undeniable even by the most confirmed skeptics and nihilists for even they have hopes of achieving some goal to which they attribute "good".
SleepingSupernova · 22-25, F
Very insightful of you. Deep down, even the most reserved of people long for a connection, a healthy one. They probably desire it even more than most. I know this because although I keep people at arm's length, I still somehow want someone to touch my heart.
tsiugnilinnuc
Your last phrases "I want someone to touch my heart" are the fundamental truth of every person according to my philosophy and experience. I think that is what prompts us to being social creatures and which leads us to procreativeness. It is, I believe, our genetic survival impetus.
SleepingSupernova · 22-25, F
Beautifully said. I can agree on all levels. I like observing people a lot and one major thing I've noticed that the more "problems" a person has perceived within themselves, the more they... socialize. Yet when we are isolates, we think a lot inwardly.

I think of it like this. We are all independent because we all have both our arms and legs, both our eyes and ears, a pair of lips, two nostrils, but one heart. Why? Because the other lies within our relationships with others.

It's just a clever thing.. May be inaccurate, but seems factual.
tsiugnilinnuc
It sounds very loving and romantic to me and my hope about you is that you will find that heart to beat with yours as one. It has been very good to chat with you. And now, since you've proven your point that good conversation can occur digitally, I must go have my supper and do some paperwork.
Have a good evening - I offer you a friendly hug
Tommy
SleepingSupernova · 22-25, F
Have a lovely dinner, dear. It was a pleasure for my too.