What is the difference between UK school and a concentration camp?

School bans boys from wearing shorts, telling them to wear skirts instead - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/chiltern-edge-school-uniform-policy-trousers-skirts-shorts-ban-a8382336.html

Parents complained wearing a blazer in the heat could make their children ill - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/school-uniform-headteacher-hatsdown-academy-matthew-tate-pupils-sent-home-a7232816.html

Nearly 80 pupils turned away from secondary in Kent over supposed dress code violations - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/school-uniform-row-hartswood-kent-dad-confronts-headmaster-at-gates-new-rules-a7231531.html

Schools refuse to let children take off their blazers during heatwave - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-heatwave-school-stops-children-taking-off-blazers-uniform-policy-temperature-a7801531.html

School sends pupils home for wearing wrong shade of grey trousers -
[quote]Headteacher Nicky Cooper defended the decision, saying: “We are very, very particular about the uniform because we need consistency right across the board.[/quote] Are the teachers there really that incompetent?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/kepier-school-houghton-le-spring-sunderland-a7935596.html

Mother whose child cried daily over school skirt to take legal action against 'discriminatory’ uniform policy - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/roberta-borsotti-skirt-school-uniform-policy-trousers-london-legal-action-department-for-education-a8435271.html

When my own children were at school I challenged the headmaster over clearly unlawful school policies. He told me quite clearly that he didn't care what the law said, he made the rules in [b]his[/b] school. It took legal action to get him to back down and comply with the law.

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Gangstress · 41-45, F

Jesus. You're making isolated incidents sound like a worldly event.

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@Gangstress They are just a few examples of the tiny minority of incidents that make the papers or the courts. These things are happening all the time. In the vast majority of cases, the schools back down when challenged because they know they're on a hiding to nothing.

Gangstress · 41-45, F

@suzie1960 its certainly not a concentration camp. More so rules that teachers dont want to get sacked for. Government standards are pathetic and teachers aren't able to teach

But alas my thoughts are. Keep em regimented at school saves fucked up kids dressing like twats in the future

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@Gangstress [quote]teachers aren't able to teach [/quote]
I know, they're too busy ensuring students are wearing the right colour socks.

[quote]Keep em regimented at school saves fucked up kids dressing like twats in the future[/quote]
Why do you think they would "dress like twats"? As nearly all UK schools have uniforms (some more draconian than others), if you see anyone "dressing like twats" that policy clearly doesn't work. Schools in the rest of Europe don't have uniforms so we should expect to see everyone in those countries "dressing like twats". I haven't seen any like that, quite the opposite in fact. In general, young people in those countries are well behaved and respectful. Perhaps that's due to their teachers setting a good example by obeying the law and treating them with respect.

Gangstress · 41-45, F

@suzie1960 well what about the young lad who thinks its ok to wear trackie bottoms in a customer facing office. Its the same gripe

You've taken my teachers aren't able to teach out of context. Teachers aren't able to teach because of the laws enforced on them by the government. Teachers must not shout at them they must not do this that or the other

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@Gangstress [quote]well what about the young lad who thinks its ok to wear trackie bottoms in a customer facing office[/quote]
What about it? I usually wear jeans and T-shirt when meeting clients. I also wear a bit of jewellery and let my long hair hang loose. So what?

[quote]Teachers aren't able to teach because of the laws enforced on them by the government. Teachers must not shout at them they must not do this that or the other[/quote]
No different from the rest of Europe. Teachers there are bound by rules, often stricter. They manage to do their jobs better than UK teachers despite (or maybe because of) obeying the rules.

Gangstress · 41-45, F

@suzie1960 wheres the god damn proof

You sound so far removed from professionalism its unreal

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@Gangstress Proof of what? That I wear jeans and T-shirts? Most of my clients do too. True professionals don't need to hide behind suits, our ability to do the job speaks for us.

Gangstress · 41-45, F

@suzie1960 no proof of the European teachers doing better than the uk ones

suzie1960 · 61-69, F

@Gangstress LOL!! Try visiting other European countries and assess for yourself. For a start, a very large proportion of young people (probably the majority) are functionally bi-lingual, often speaking English better than a lot of English people.