To men and women who like women:

When I was working I would split the bill or pay one time and the next time not.

Split the bill for me, I don't really want to be the old fashioned tradcon chivalry guy who does everything for the woman while she does nothing for me in turn since I hate tradconism.. I'd rather things be balanced with man and woman in a natural manner like if she got naked for my gaze in special days and so on.

Demanded? I'm just old fashioned, and I expect to pay for everything anyway.

Couple of weeks ago I heard a story in the radio.
A young girl who run out of money too early in the month organised 15 dinner dates to have something to eat and sent each guy away after dinner saying she just not feeling "it". Obviously all dinners been paid by the guys.

I would like to hear women's opinion on this.

If they demanded or expected it that would be a huge red flag for me.

For me it has been 50/50 unless otherwise agreed upon in advance. I also like to pay on birthdays and special things like that too.

::sighing::

my feelings are complicated.

It's too much typing though..

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point being women are doing most of the scud work these days. The shit no one really wants but has to be done anyways. Except for actual Septic workers the Bottom rung of workers making minimum wage are mostly women, and plenty of them are attractive enoguh they just work crappy jobs

they have my gratitude though because they're the glue holding civilization together even though they're paid minimum wage for it. Get rid of the base and the bottom of society will truly have fallen out.

i'd treat someone if i could afford it as a first date. after that i'd wanna go halvsies or trade dates. like you buy this one i'll get the next.

If you're trying to convince someone to go out with you, you should probably pay. If it's mutual that is different.

men should pay for every thing,,its the right thing to do,,it was the way i was raised up,,

No sex on first date No second date otherwise will pay second,third......

It really depends on who is asking who out.

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