Is cancel culture real or is it just a right-wing myth?

Personally, I think it does exist but it's niche and massively blown up by the right. Conservative YouTubers seem much more obsessed with university social science departments than anyone else on the planet. If you complain about being 'cancelled' it's the fastest way to get a book deal but then if you criticise the government of Israel you get called an anti-semite.

BTW, most of the 'free-speech absolutists' on this site will never read this post because they have blocked me. Oh well.

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AuRevoir · 36-40, M

It exists even leftist types get cancelled.. but it’s not really a thing that can be controlled.. piss off enough people and even if a platform doesn’t remove you often people feel so ashamed over their exposure they remove themselves...

In fact I’d say that’s the more likely outcome for a lot of people.. Where it gets weirder to me is when society thinks it has to cancel things like dr.suess books.. But keeps the porn industry highly active.. If anything should be cancelled immediately it should be that.. But the government’s the world over make too much money off it, so it’ll never happen..

But there’s plenty of examples, especially when things like twitch, YouTube or other entertainment media’s are concerned, where someone is left winged. Can be the complete opposite of a more conservative based mindset, and becomes cancelled because of their behaviors, actions, and words..

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@AuRevoir [quote] Where it gets weirder to me is when society thinks it has to cancel things like dr.suess books.. But keeps the porn industry highly active..[/quote]
Dr Suess books never got cancelled, the estate decided to remove them on their own - that’s when “they’re stealing my childhood” hoopla started.

But also, these are children’s books, it’s very odd to compare them to the porn industry.

AuRevoir · 36-40, M

@QuixoticSoul They did get cancelled, certain ones being removed is the same as a cancellation... Just be a you wish to be anal about your definition of what a cancellation implies, doesn’t mean others aren’t going to have a wtf moment about it...

And it’s not odd at all to compare it, it’s literally the perfect example.. Why are children’s books being removed band society being so aware of small scale instances of “offensive material” yet larger offensive material is able to run amok?

You would expect the worst of the worst to be removed, before removing the smaller matters. And society seems to be doing it all in reverse.

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@AuRevoir What I mean was they stopped publishing the books on their own, not because of a mass outcry or a boycott - which is what we mean by someone/thing getting cancelled.

And it’s really not surprising that we as a society have a different standard for child and adult entertainment.

jackjjackson · 61-69, M

That is quite the juxtaposition for sure. There is an element out there of say it or write it “this way” “or else”. I seems kind of threatening and repressive. @QuixoticSoul

AuRevoir · 36-40, M

@QuixoticSoul That’s not how cancelling works.. They’re taking the initiative to cancel it themselves, because they believe a backlash from cancel culture could occur. Therefore it’s still cancel culture implied. It’s just a fear based preemptive strike of cancel culture. And how it’s already affected the throes of society, to cause them to make such decisions.

If that were your argument all they would have to do is mark the books as explicative or sensitive and adult based only, but instead they cancelled the books and removed any further printing or distributing of them.

And there’s plenty of racist material in pornography, that being the main issue with the books was not the form in which the entertainment came in but the supposed subconsciously hinted messages within the books.

Which again if that’s the problem. 90% of the worlds porn should come under questioning first.

QuixoticSoul · 41-45, M

@AuRevoir So what you meant was that the organization was afraid of getting cancelled, rather than got cancelled. Maybe. But considering that this conversation has been going on since the 80s, maybe things just got there organically.

There is no market for adult-rated dr suess books, so that would have been pretty pointless. As for porn - it’s porn, nobody expects it to be wholesome or to teach values to our children.

AuRevoir · 36-40, M

@QuixoticSoul maybe but its still strange to see it even occur. Just like it was strange when Disney promised new Star Wars movies but hired someone who is quoted for absolutely hating Star Wars to make them, amongst other things. And essentially pre-cancels a beloved series, by giving people the opposite of what they want.

If girls can sell their E-girl bath water they fart in.. And mama June and honey booboo took became household names in society. It’ll be too hard to convince me that there’s not a market for everything anymore. As long as the person knows how to sell it.