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Race is a spectrum

Race is a spectrum, and sex is a binary…one of the few binaries found in biology. People have it backwards.

If a black person and a white person have babies, you get a biracial baby. Then if that baby has babies with an Asian, you get a triracial (sp?) baby. This goes on indefinitely.

This is not the case with sex. If a man and a woman have sex, you get a male or female baby, with few exceptions (like genetic mutations that result in both male and female genitalia, and these people typically cannot procreate during adulthood). But if two men or two women have sex, it isn’t like you have a trans baby.

It’s funny because if a Mexican “identifies” as a Jew, they’re called racist, but if a man identifies as a woman, it’s totally cool. Even though Jewish Mexicans are absolutely a thing, but men will always be men.

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ElwoodBlues · M

According to Dr. Anne Fausto-Sterling, a recognized expert in this field of study, 1-1/2 to 2% of all births do not fall strictly within the tight definition of all-male or all-female, even if the child looks "normal." In reaching her numbers, Dr. Fausto-Sterling counted all incidents of intersexuality, from mild to extreme. The incidence of children with mixed genitalia is pegged at 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 3,000, or 0.033 to 0.05 percent of all births.

As far as chromosomes are concerned, we have observed genotypes involving XXX, XXY, XYY and X0 (Turner syndrome) sex chromosomes. And we've observed human phenotypes with a range from no functioning sex organs to varying amounts of male & female sex organs on the same individual (these are often called intersex). Genetic mosaicism is where the X and Y chromosomes are expressed differently (from the most common expression) on different parts of the body (these phenotypes are also often described as intersex and sometimes hermaphrodite). Then there's androgen insensitivity syndrome. These are all observable biological phenomena that either God or Nature brings into the human family.

P.S. exceptions do NOT prove rules. When exceptions were found to Newton's law of gravity, it didn't prove Newton's law, it disproved it. However, we know where Newton's laws are accurate to better than one part in ten billion and we know where the exceptions are, and we use it accordingly.

RopinTexan · 36-40, M

@ElwoodBlues Correct. And your point is?

ElwoodBlues · M

@RopinTexan Phenotypic sex is not a strict binary.

And, the most complex sex organ is the human brain. And I don't think you could make a case that human attraction is a strict binary.

RopinTexan · 36-40, M

@ElwoodBlues The brain is not a “sex organ,” but I do agree that attraction is not a binary.

NerdyPotato ·

with few exceptions

And there you go... So that's not binary either.

it isn’t like you have a trans baby

Except for about 3% of cases, which is quite a lot to call it an exception.

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RopinTexan · 36-40, M

@NerdyPotato Your argument that the existence of hermaphrodites proves that sex is a spectrum is equally bad. You also completely ignored the parallel I drew to race.

Why does my “equivalency” not hold up?

NerdyPotato ·

@RopinTexan you failed to bring up a real argument.

I'm not going to enter a bad faith discussion.

Thanks for acknowledging there's a parallel with race though and those aren't entirely different.

RopinTexan · 36-40, M

@NerdyPotato Why isn’t my argument “real?” Just because you don’t like it? Or because you don’t have a good counter argument?

Father2 · 61-69, M

I question your premise "When a black person and a white person...the result is a biracial child". That would be true if the parents were 100% white and 100% black, which I don't believe exists anymore. I am a fair skinned white male with blue eyes, yet my ancestors came from Sub-Saharan Africa, if you go far enough back. That is true for all humans alive today.

RopinTexan · 36-40, M

@Father2 That’s a fair point—perhaps my wording wasn’t the best—but I think it proves my point further. “Races” are pretty arbitrary, manmade categories. We tend to associate black skin with Africa, which is why we call people with south and Central African heritage “black.” But technically people like you or even Egyptian-Americans are still “African-American.”

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RopinTexan · 36-40, M

@Diotrephes What would you call those people then?

Diotrephes · 70-79, M

@RopinTexan

What would you call those people then?

Egyptian-American, Somalian-American, South African-American, etc.

uikakarotuevegeta · 26-30

@RopinTexan it's funny how even after the discovery of DNA debunked the concept that race is biological, people still hold on to that belief, especially the left

Roundandroundwego · 61-69

Peace was the goal. You folks win.

BohemianBabe · M

It's not a binary because there are intersex people. Also, males have different levels of testosterone, females have different levels of estrogen. Sex is bimodal.

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