Pherick · 41-45, M
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Haylani · 26-30
"You are only one person, regardless of form and have full control when you shift, unless you happen to have some type of multiple personality disorder. In which case, you still probably aren't a werewolf, but rather suffer from clinical lycanthropy (I would recommend seeing a professional if you haven't already)."
Those are two separate conditions. Clinical lycanthropy is more along the lines of a delusional disorder, with it's own markers (such as belief that their lycanthropy was caused by outside forces, and that becoming an animal is a punishment or representation of evil). "Multiple personalities" is just that and that alone- there's no linkage to any delusional disorders. In fact the clinical versions of the disorders are categorized differently. It'd be like saying you can't shift with an anxiety disorder and that it is linked to schizophrenia (which, it isn't.)
"Then there's gender. If you are a girl, and your "wolf side" is male, you are not a werewolf. What you identify as is your business and yours alone, but if you identify as one gender as a human and another gender as a wolf, you are either role playing or in need of serious help."
I'm just curious about what specifically you mean by this, since the wording is kind of fuzzy.
The rest of the passage I can agree with.
Those are two separate conditions. Clinical lycanthropy is more along the lines of a delusional disorder, with it's own markers (such as belief that their lycanthropy was caused by outside forces, and that becoming an animal is a punishment or representation of evil). "Multiple personalities" is just that and that alone- there's no linkage to any delusional disorders. In fact the clinical versions of the disorders are categorized differently. It'd be like saying you can't shift with an anxiety disorder and that it is linked to schizophrenia (which, it isn't.)
"Then there's gender. If you are a girl, and your "wolf side" is male, you are not a werewolf. What you identify as is your business and yours alone, but if you identify as one gender as a human and another gender as a wolf, you are either role playing or in need of serious help."
I'm just curious about what specifically you mean by this, since the wording is kind of fuzzy.
The rest of the passage I can agree with.
Haylani · 26-30
"If you are a girl, and your "wolf side" is male, you are not a werewolf. What you identify as is your business and yours alone, but if you identify as one gender as a human and another gender as a wolf, you are either role playing or in need of serious help."
I guess what confuses me is the way you phrased it. Are you saying the person would not be a werewolf because each "side" has a distinct gender (similar to the naming convention you discussed earlier, in which the wolf side should not have a separate name to the human side)? Do you mean this in a non-physical sense (like the wolf side shouldn't be able to have another gender identity subjectively because it's not a separate part of you), or physically? Are you saying that the gender should be the same across the board so that, for example, even if the human is physically one gender (in this case female) and the wolf is another gender, there shouldn't be a distinction between the two?
I'm just curious as to which you're referring to, since I was seeing several different things it could mean, and I didn't want to get the wrong idea.
I guess what confuses me is the way you phrased it. Are you saying the person would not be a werewolf because each "side" has a distinct gender (similar to the naming convention you discussed earlier, in which the wolf side should not have a separate name to the human side)? Do you mean this in a non-physical sense (like the wolf side shouldn't be able to have another gender identity subjectively because it's not a separate part of you), or physically? Are you saying that the gender should be the same across the board so that, for example, even if the human is physically one gender (in this case female) and the wolf is another gender, there shouldn't be a distinction between the two?
I'm just curious as to which you're referring to, since I was seeing several different things it could mean, and I didn't want to get the wrong idea.
DyanWerewolf · 26-30, M
Yes, I am saying the person would not be a werewolf because each "side" has a distinct gender, similar to the naming situation I mentioned earlier, in which the wolf side should not have a separate name to the human side. But I also meant it in a physical and non-physical sense. The wolf side shouldn't be able to have another gender identity subjectively because it's not a separate part of you, as you said. As I'm sure most are aware, there are some individuals that do not identify their gender with the sex they were assigned at birth, which was the physical sense. If someone that is physically male who identifies as a female were to shift, she would still have a physically male body irregardless of how she identifies. Shifting is a science, not a magic. Hope this helped.
Haylani · 26-30
Yes, it cleared things up for me. Thank you.
Drachona · 31-35, M
I agree for the most part. I have only a few criticisms. Firstly, just a minor point: Clinical Lycanthropy is a joke. Aside from the definition being incongruent with the name, it is very rare. There have been only a handful of confirmed instances of CL in history, and the research surrounding it is either irrelevant (like the impact of cannabis use on a patient) or based on misconceptions about werewolves. It is an embarrassment of science. These few people clearly have legitimate problems (typically because of other disorders), but the fact that some hold up Clinical Lycanthropy as an explanation for werewolves is shockingly moronic. Secondly, and more importantly, it may be difficult initially to shift, but this idea that it's unimaginably painful every time is ridiculous. It is a natural process for us; something we've easily done for a very long time. This would be akin to claiming that a cheetah experiences great pain whenever they run or a shark whenever they swim. It's an exercise, sure, and it gets easier the more you do it, but this isn't An American Werewolf in London. It would be both inefficient and dangerous for an animal to require that amount of time and to experience such pain to accomplish something they are biologically equipped to do. It's not like giving birth. In the past, we just went in and out of it. We didn't even call it anything or think of it as a transition. The same way many therians treat the "mental shift" almost like a ceremony, many people nowadays treat the physical shift like a ceremony. It's not rigid and dichotomous. It's just something we do.
SheAngel19 · 36-40, F
I feel like the torch is passing....
icouldntthinkofagooduser · 26-30
The main reason I want to shift asap is to be done with the preparation pains already. It would be about time they stop... It has been going on for pretty much a whole year.