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gandalf1957 · 61-69, M
The "smash the gangs" re: the boat arrivals really annoys me. I guess many people though that a lawyer and former DPP to boot would be showcasing what could be done with the smash the gangs comment and maybe voted for Labour on that basis. It was just another soundbite to get support for Starmer becoming prime minister just like the cynical posing with the WASPI women, any way to get another voter. Smashing the gangs under British law just not possible in most cases, the gangs don't operate out of Britain generally. The only prosecution that I am aware of is ironically someone arrested whilst Rishi Sunak was prime minister.
One thing to remember when Starmer accuses the Tories as he readily does of never learning is that Labour have failed to recognise that their total vote in 2024 was approximately 500,000 fewer that in 2019 so droves didn't vote for change and large parliamentary majorities on individual wafer thin parliamentary seat majorities can soon disappear as the Tories found in 2024 and as I predict Labour will find come the General Election and clearly Labour have not learned that.
I would never vote Labour, nor did I vote for Conservatives led by Boris Johnson
So, I didn't vote Labour in 2024 and I didn't vote Conservative in 2019, I voted in both General Elections, differently each time.
One thing to remember when Starmer accuses the Tories as he readily does of never learning is that Labour have failed to recognise that their total vote in 2024 was approximately 500,000 fewer that in 2019 so droves didn't vote for change and large parliamentary majorities on individual wafer thin parliamentary seat majorities can soon disappear as the Tories found in 2024 and as I predict Labour will find come the General Election and clearly Labour have not learned that.
I would never vote Labour, nor did I vote for Conservatives led by Boris Johnson
So, I didn't vote Labour in 2024 and I didn't vote Conservative in 2019, I voted in both General Elections, differently each time.
@gandalf1957 the solutionto the boats,is to pick themup in the sea and take them back to france right away, its simple
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@jefferson not when you’re in the ECHR it it isn’t, isn’t it great been part of the EU, we never left the EU,
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ididntknow What's the ECHR got to do with the EU?
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@FreddieUK European court of human rights
ididntknow · 56-60, M
@FreddieUK it’s the EU
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ididntknow No it's not. It is often confused with it, but do a little research and you will find that the UK was a founder member long before we joined the then Common Market and it arose out of the atrocities of WWII.
ididntknow · 56-60, M
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ididntknow And? You are still talking about the EU. I'm talking about the ECHR. Separate entities, but anything with the word "European" in it seem to send some people into an apoplexy.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@ididntknow Good. We are on the way to an understanding. The Council of Europe and the ECHR are separate entities to the EU. Strasbourg is a common feature. But them so is London for many international institutions that are not connected legally.






