FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@gandalf1957 Thanks
ArishMell · 70-79, M
Maybe the Reform gloss is beginning to fade? Early days yet though - one defection is not especially relevant except for one important point that seems often missed.
A councillor or an MP is elected to represent a party. A defection to a rival party in mid-term is disloyal not only to that party but also to his or her electors.
Any politician wanting to change party should wait until the next election, then resign or change party only then.
A councillor or an MP is elected to represent a party. A defection to a rival party in mid-term is disloyal not only to that party but also to his or her electors.
Any politician wanting to change party should wait until the next election, then resign or change party only then.
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SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@gandalf1957 Labour has over three and a half years left in office, judge them closer to the time. Although I found the lack of detail in their manifesto about taxes that will need to be raised unhelpful and counter-productive, they are implementing intelligent medium to long term policies and investing in infrastructure that has been neglected for years.
People don't want to pay more tax, but they also don't want to lose any of their services. We have a huge deficit to pay off after the Covid giveaways. Politicians are not showing much leadership, but to be fair this is not the easiest electorate to lead 🤷♀
People don't want to pay more tax, but they also don't want to lose any of their services. We have a huge deficit to pay off after the Covid giveaways. Politicians are not showing much leadership, but to be fair this is not the easiest electorate to lead 🤷♀
gandalf1957 · 61-69, M
@SunshineGirl I think the UK might be in an even bigger mess without the Covid give aways if by that you mean by the "huge deficit" the furlough scheme and the financial help to businesses. I can't imagine the chaos if people had been sent home with no money at all to pay ongoing bills and feed themselves, and businesses had not been saved for people to go back to subsequently after the pandemic. My recollection was that Starmer said he and Labour supported those schemes and that at the time Sunak was virtually the most popular chancellor of the exchequer. But that spending was a bit like a credit card spend, it has to be paid off and hence the large debt. I would have hoped any of the UK main stream political parties would have done similar.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@gandalf1957 I support the schemes, but they do need to be paid for at some stage.
senghenydd · M
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@FreddieUK I hope that Feb-March next year will be a turning point when voters discover that there was very little fat to trim in local government after all and essential services still need to be funded. Not that this will make increases in Council Tax any easier, but it may take some of the wind out of Farage's sails.
FreddieUK · 70-79, M
@SunshineGirl Agree 100%
